I work for the US government and Proton is blocked at the network level, so I can’t check my personal email at work. In that sense, the US has already “banned” it. In what other way could a government “ban” an email provider?
Honestly doing personal tasks on your works network is not a great idea. If anything use wireguard to route your traffic back to your home. (You can flash OpenWRT and set this up)
Well I guess it is up to you. If it violates your employers policy then don’t do it obviously but you can adjust your VPN to make it hard to differentiate between normal traffic and VPN traffic. It can work in China so it probably can work for you.
If your that concerned about your work don’t use your phone or at the very least don’t connect to WiFi
I’ve had corporate LANs that I couldn’t route around to my wireguard servers from even using netmakers turn server stuff which punches through most shitty lans.
That’s odd. I’m surprised they blocked it for you. I also work for the US federal government and I haven’t had any issues with using Proton at work. I wonder why the difference.
It was fine until a few weeks ago. We moved into a new building and something with the network changed. Concurrently we also have to connect via the VPN a different way than we used to. With all of those changes Proton went from not blocked to blocked.
The government’s move is in line with a recent policy that has targeted services with end-to-end encryption. A host of encrypted apps were blocked at the start of last year — including the likes of Threema, Element, Wickrme, and Safeswiss — and the government is going after WhatsApp to disable end-to-end encryption, although it isn’t clear how that would even work.
This is why GPG is still an important and valuable tool. You can use it on litteral anything and not relying on single point of failure. Paired with steganography no one will know the message even existed. Yet, not many are willing to learn nor support this anymore.
Edit: use of more conservative wording Edit 2: correct spelling
GPG is painful. No doubt. But with the pain it gains agility. Any single apps and protocols enables secure communication, being TLS, Tor, GPG or any one you listed, can draw attention. However, apps are more vulnerable. Their traffic pattern can be analysed and block individually while GPG is protocol agnostic. Look how China GFW had block many E2EE apps/protocols.
In today’s world, secure communication apps like SimpleX are more in flavor as it is way easier to use. I used them daily as my main communication method. But it’s also good to learn GPG as a backup when those apps fails.
What’s scary is that China and India are to massive countries in terms of population. The way this is going most of humanity could end up living in countries with low respect for human rights.
I was beaten for standing against authoritarian government. The situation is so bad in India that I am afraid to reveal my religion in university. Lot of people in University tries to oppress me and I can’t even complaint because everyone is ok with this and they enjoy oppressing us minorities.
I honesly feel like a jew living under nazi germany. 😞
They don’t want companies to aid people who want to bomb them. Is that really a tall ask? What do you prefer, that they wiretap the entire internet like western governments do here? You can know the UK can read our private messages? - gizmodo.com/teen-fine-joke-text-taliban-jets-scra…
A lot of this stuff is highly suspicious considering how long governments have been trying to ban VPNs and encrypted messaging. At some point I’d expect someone in favor of bans to commit activities like this to push services to block and governments to ban.
You think I don’t know? There is a reason that I connect to the internet only via VPN and my country generally uses DPI to censor sites and so on. Half of the population is paralised and propagandised by instagram, tiktok and the national TV. the rest are made to feel very powerless, hell most students are aiming to study the university aboard and never come back afterwards(me, I am the students), I am well aware of the mass censorship and the oppression of our government against marginalised minorities like immigrants, kurds and LGBTQ people(me). We have a putin sittuation over here the same far right fascist party wins every election and my only hope at the moment is to escape
yea I am an exmuslim, I am against organized religion generally, you are pretty spot on about the country being run by religious zealots I would like to add that not only religion but also fascism plays a big role in our politics.
I am going to pay back to the community on my own way in the future(activism and mutual aid) but first I need to secure my own safety likely outside of the borders of this country and it’s lonely like you said, tons want to be enslaved because they’re propagandized to think that it was even worse before the dictator. I am a huge privacy and tech nerd myself thanks for the talk
Proton pulled their VPN servers out of India after they passed a law mandating logging.
‘you can connect to our new Smart Routing servers for India. These will give you an Indian IP address and behave just as our physical servers in India did. The only difference is that, in reality, they are based in Singapore.’
Just call instead and explain you’ve sent them emails. Oh, you’re not getting the email because of your government? That sounds like a you problem that you need to fix. I might be forced to take my business elsewhere.
Talk about being a racist and i am pretty sure you guys don’t give a flying fuck about north koreans or anyone else except you atleast try to act like you have a little humanity left in your hearts even though you don’t .
How is giving into authoritarian governments helping the oppressed populations in those countries?
Informing them that said authoritarians are blocking our private and secure email services in favor of surveillance, lets them vote against their leadership, or protest, if their votes aren’t counted.
North Korea is hyperbolic though, since they really aren’t even officially connected to the internet.
I know but you could still express some sympathy some comments have an attitude like its your problem loser . And not connected to the internet doesn’t mean they aren’t real
I haven’t commented anywhere in this thread, so I’m being objective. Look at it this way - I’m an American and our government is speed running towards facism and very much may re-elect a convicted felon who was caught stealing classified documents and sending them to our enemies. Similar to your problem, that is very much our problem, and the only real way to undo it is for other nations like yours to make us fuck off and deal with it.
That’s what people are getting at. It sucks for the people like you, like me, that are powerless in this situation, but from a macro level, it’s what needs to happen. Everyone sympathizes with you, the person, but very few sympathize with the country as a whole, as it’s viewed as self inflicted. Try not to take it personally, and recognize that it’s not coming from a place of racism, but objective rationality.
It’s is positively beyond deranged to be this nationalistic. You have quite literally taken personal offence to the general idea of opposition to the positions of your current government.
Are you India? Am I speaking to the subcontinent itself? Please advise at once sir.
What ? Technically i am not even from “India” and i hate indian government as much as anyone else . I just found the lack of sympathy of those users kinda deppressing and would’ve said the same thing if you changed india to china or russia or any other country. My point is hate the government not the people even though most indians i met are right wing shit eaters there still are some people who stands for justice but doesn’t have the power and thibk differently than others so yeah i kinda hate steriotyping like i get it most indians are like that but some are not . Like i would bet some of the germans in the nazi era was good.
Nothing against them personally. If the American government or British government or insert-any-nationality government did the same, I’d say the same thing.
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