kaia,
@kaia@brotka.st avatar

Ian Fleming in the 60s claims Austrian women are only 1/10th as beautiful as English women, because Austrian women are racially too diverse. he'd really love the UK today :akko_smug:

mia,

@kaia he should visit some place like rochdale, really makes you appreciate the people 🙃

cc @Arcana

mia,

@kaia @Arcana it's got the finest the UK has to offer, a beautiful environment that brings out the best in people. violent gangs, child abuse rings, teens murdering each other, rampant alcoholism...

kaia,
@kaia@brotka.st avatar

@mia @Arcana
big oof. then I can understand why @sim is often talking about this.

sim,
@sim@shitposter.club avatar

@kaia @Arcana @mia Yeah, I wouldn't recommend people coming to the UK now.

Did you know we still have a pocket of gun violence in the UK? Welcome to Merseyside.
https://yewtu.be/watch?v=ZZBa76oeTkU

sim,
@sim@shitposter.club avatar

@kaia @Arcana @mia In case you think that incident is too old, a video about gang gun violence this year.

https://yewtu.be/watch?v=5LAMw4uIcVg

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@sim @kaia @mia this is the county I live in

It is very grim

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@sim @kaia @mia I’m not very far from where a woman was killed by a submachine gun via crossfire at a Christmas party in 2022

There’s drive bys too and a reason I don’t like walking around here because when a car drives past, especially if they slow down, you just never know

sim,
@sim@shitposter.club avatar

@Arcana @kaia @mia

It really does sound grim there. Here I thought banning guns meant there would be no gun violence. But you just never know.

I don't think I'd be walking around where you are either. Probably don't want to answer the door either.

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@sim @kaia @mia Yeah answering the door is quite literally how people have died. I have recurring nightmares about people trying (and sometimes succeeding) to break in

sim,
@sim@shitposter.club avatar

@Arcana @kaia @mia Yeah, I think that is how a little girl died in the story that I linked to. I don't know what the answer is. Except that a lot of this can be solved by people not using drugs, then there is no market for it and they have to go elsewhere.

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@sim @kaia @mia Yeah

tiskaan,

@Arcana @kaia @mia @sim legalise drugs

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@tiskaan @kaia @mia @sim while I am in favor of getting rid of drug laws, and I do see it as a health matter not a legal matter, I don’t think it would complete solve a lot of the violence here. It would still be a step in the right direction though to alleviate people’s dependence on and the profit of the cartels

A lot of people who are violent and sadistic though seem to do it for the sake of it and I’m really not exaggerating there. One of my mum’s former co workers, her son was stabbed on a local train years ago because he had long hair. Drugs were irrelevant to that

sim,
@sim@shitposter.club avatar

@Arcana @kaia @tiskaan @mia

If you legalise it, what happens to the cartels? Do they not just become legitimate businesses at that point?

tiskaan,

@sim @Arcana @kaia @mia they either become legal entities and have to participate with economy properly OR someone else will and overtime the cartels will run out of money. or they move onto other shit 🤷‍♂️

either way gang violence would stop.

Ive heard about millitant sections of IRA doing direct action against drug dealers in north ireland if you want local community based stuff in the UK LMFAO.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Action_Against_Drugs

icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

@tiskaan @Arcana @kaia @mia @sim mobsters used to "go legit" from time to time. back in the mafia days some of those businesses were legitimate and the money laundering was secondary. they used to appoint people to assess those after arrests and see if it were possible to sever the business and turn it back over on its own.

for drug operations they would have to bring the workshops up to code.

although drug legalization is cursed. mostly because the state wants at that tax money, the companies want at that crony capital protections, and people are used to the black market's swift efficiency :blobcatancap: (we don't have a syndicalist blob) that the massive price increases brought by all the statists trying to 'get theirs' gets rejected.

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