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Chup, in Zelensky reiterates objection to ceding territory to Russia

On the topic of peace and peace talks, that Zelensky also mentioned in Argentina, this is the first issue that comes to my mind: territory.

Ukraine ceding occupied territory to Russia – why would they do this? It would be a reward for Russia for conducting an illegal invasion. It would be a terrible precedent, showing the world that it’s a doable and acceptable procedure, where you get to keep stuff at the end.

Russia returning occupied territory to Ukraine – why would they do this? It’s what they came for and so far they can militarily hold onto it. Making them stop the occupation needs an incentive. But what could that be? From who? Financial? Political? In what magnitude? Wouldn’t giving Russia anything then again also be a reward? They invaded, occupied for a while and then get some goodies for leaving?

I really don’t know how the plans in the drawers all over the world look, from people that are in decision making positions. And we haven’t even started about reparations for war damages yet.

snooggums,
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We even have the recent example of Russia taking Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 not stopping Russia from continued aggression.

SpicyPeaSoup, in Biden: US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons and equipment as long as we can
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"As long as it takes" has become "as long as we can".

Hopefully Europe can pick up the slack and more. We owe Ukraine so much.

mihies, in Tarnavskyi: Russia spreading disinfo about capturing Marinka

According to deepstate maps, they are advancing, though.

SpicyPeaSoup, in Russians hide behind captured soldiers of Ukrainian Armed Forces - video
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Reminder that these are Ukrainian people, staying legally in their own country, and the people behind them are russians who have no right to be trespassing on someone else's land.

be_excellent_to_each_other, in Russians hide behind captured soldiers of Ukrainian Armed Forces - video
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This is a warcrime, right?

(I know, just another for the pile - but just to be clear.)

Ulara,

Right, this is definitely a warcrime.

Diplomjodler, in Russians hide behind captured soldiers of Ukrainian Armed Forces - video

Someone just skipped the queue to catching an FPV drone.

Jaysyn, in Russian Interior Ministry puts Budanov on wanted list
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LOL, fascist bully gets their tax system kicked in & is now bigmad.

You really want to hurt ? Want riots in ? Destroy their pension system next .

MisterD, in Congress gridlocked one day before holiday break without Ukraine deal

Oops, on purpose

jawarajabbi, in EU summit live: Viktor Orbán says Hungary can stop Ukraine joining European Union despite leaders’ agreement
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SamsonSeinfelder, in Former FBI agent sentenced to 4 years in prison for helping Russian oligarchs evade sanctions

Fucking traitor. Get rekt.

WashedOver, in Former FBI agent sentenced to 4 years in prison for helping Russian oligarchs evade sanctions
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Great! Now do the GOP members on the Russian take next.

GraceLaine, in 'Give birth to more soldiers': hardline Russia turns on abortions

@lusterko

Russia’s population is in a historic decline as emigration, war and a plunging birth rate form a ‘perfect storm’

https://fortune.com/europe/2022/10/18/russia-population-historic-decline-emigration-war-plunging-birth-rate-form-perfect-storm/amp/

tygerprints, in GOP senators say Zelenskyy's attempts to convince them in person to keep supporting Ukraine did not work

Yep, I guess not even seeing the horrific casualties of war is enough to convince these GOP monsters why this war has to be won by Ukraine and not Russia. It's pretty clear many of them are already working for the Kremlin anyway. Well, let Russia win then and take over Europe. I don't give a fuck anymore. GOP wants us all dead, then there's not much we can do to stop it at all. Let's start learning Russian dialect as soon as possible and teaching it in our schools.

lusterko,

I'm happy that we(Ukrainians) didn't have these defeatist thoughts when the war started.

tygerprints,

Well I was being defeatist to make a point. Either we help fund Ukraine now or we all lose in a huge way in the end. It looks like our fellow Americans have voted to lose and concede our powers to Russia. So why not join them instead of fighting them.

lusterko,

I understand that the point you're trying to make, and I understand why you're doing it this way. It still hurts to read something like that.

tygerprints,

It should hurt, it's supposed to. What good would it be if my words had no impact at all. At least you get my point - unlike 99.9 percent of the rabble on this site.

BraveSirZaphod,
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I'm amazed you're able to stand when you have absolutely no spine.

lurch,

It’s clearly cynical. No way they’re going to learn russian.

tygerprints,

I'm amazed you can stand after sucking your mom's maggot-infested cunt all day long. By now you should have a good idea just how little I value any opinion you have, and how little spine you have in my own view. Keep being a filthy asshole, though - that's about all you're good for.

skulblaka,
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Your fellow Americans haven't decided shit. Public opinion is overwhelmingly in favor of Ukraine. A handful of Republicans have decided that their bit of kompromat and pocket change is more important than the trajectory of world politics. You want to be mad at someone, be mad at them, and let's make sure their history and policy choices are reflected when they're up for reelection.

tygerprints,

It clearly is, and that's my point. In America, public opinion is heavily in favor of the Ukraine. A handful of Republicans have decided to hold the rest of us hostage to their own ends and because it lines their pockets. I am mad at them, that was the whole point of my original post. I think my sarcasm is sometimes lost on people.

lusterko, (edited )

I have nothing against you, and I don't think that the downvotes you're getting are deserved.
Edit: a letter

snooggums,
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I was with you in the first half, but your conclusion is self defeating.

tygerprints,

I prefer getting downvotes, because it indicates I'm telling the truth and people are hating having to come face to face with it. You can always tell you've told the truth by how many people are angry about it. If people didn't downvote my comments, they'd be pretty useless.

snooggums,
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What a stupid attempt at explaining away terrible opinions.

It could conceivably work if your audience was terrible people and you were pointing out something positive, but thinking that is a general rule shows you just want to troll people.

tygerprints,

Well it's not quite as stupid as you, but OK I'm liking your anger here. The more I get under your skin, the happier I am about it. You've demonstrated that you're so easily manipulated and, that I can bring out the worst in you very easily. And that makes my whole day!

snooggums,
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I'm not angry, that is just you projecting.

tygerprints,

If that were true you wouldn't have bothered to make that statement. I am happy about your anger, though - don't get me wrong. It helps me keep my needles very sharp.

snooggums,
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Calm down.

tygerprints,

I like your anger - it helps keep my needles very sharp.

snooggums,
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You repeat yourself, get some self respect.

tygerprints,

Sounds good, I like your anger - it helps keep my needles very sharp.

snooggums,
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Oh look, the AI is stuck in a loop.

tygerprints,

Sounds good to me. I like AI it helps keep my needles very sharp.

Jaysyn, in Former FBI agent sentenced to 4 years in prison for helping Russian oligarchs evade sanctions
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Should have been much longer.

Pourroy, in GOP senators say Zelenskyy's attempts to convince them in person to keep supporting Ukraine did not work
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@lusterko Nothing can tear them away from their love, Putin.

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