MrFunnyMoustache,

The smartphone market has matured, so there is less of a difference between each generation. Earlier on there was a massive difference in performance:

The OG Galaxy S had 512MB of RAM, 8GB storage, and a single Arm A8 core at 1GHz, and the SII had 1GB of RAM, 16GB/32GB storage, and a dual core A9 at 1.2GHz. This is a single generation with double the RAM and more than double CPU power, and nearly 6x the GPU power (theoretically), and 2-4 times the storage.

Then the SIII came out with a quad core SoC 1.4GHz, a much larger screen with higher resolution (jumping from 480p to 720p), significantly bigger battery, and up to 64GB of storage.

The S4 doubled the RAM to 2GB, faster storage, significantly faster and more efficient SoC, a larger, 1080p display paired with a much more powerful GPU, and a significantly larger battery as well.

Back then, if you had the money, there was a considerable difference between each generation and there was a reason to upgrade, many not every year, but if you could afford it, upgrading every other year made sense.

After that, changes were much more calm. Sure, some phone makers made exciting and innovative stuff, but the hardware didn’t have a massive difference from one generation to another, and also prices were rising.

Nowadays, phones are far less exciting, but flagship phones are ludicrously expensive, and yet they sell incredibly well. While phones are being improved from one generation to the next, they feel like small steps rather than a giant leap. Our demand for power hasn’t gone up quite as fast as our phones themselves. People will keep buying phones less frequently, just like we do for laptops.

rufus,

Yo, write better titles. I thought this was a video about how they didn’t want to upgrade to Android 15 or something. But it’s not. It’s just about not buying a new phone every two years 😆 In my opinion buying a new replacement isn’t ‘upgrading’.

AnUnusualRelic,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

You upgrade your phone when you can no longer use the previous one. What other reason would there be? They’re all the same anyway.

kryptonianCodeMonkey,

10+ years ago, it was very common to get an upgrade to your phone ever two years (or less). And at the time, there was a lot more variability in phones. And I mean in more than just battery life, storage capacity, camera quality, processor, etc. There used to be a variety of form factors to consider, sizes, genuinely different features and functionalities. The iPhone came about in 2009, and other smart phones soon followed, but even then there were still phones with physical keyboards, digital keyboards with stylus typing, flip phones, etc. Once smart phones completely dominated the market and all the manufacturers started just copying each other’s features and designs, eventually we got to the status quo of today where they’re all essentially the same. The only major difference now is the OS, and that’s largely just down to iOS vs Android.

infinitepcg,

That’s kind of the point. There was a time in the 2010s when each new device could do something that they couldn’t previously do. But it seems like the market has figured out what people want from their phones and that’s what they are getting now.

Neato,
@Neato@ttrpg.network avatar

I’m still on 13 just because I didn’t see any point to upgrade.

VeganCheesecake,
@VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

I mean, I don’t see the point in not upgrading when your device supports it. The interface pretty much stays the same at this point, and they usually do improve on security, and other background stuff.

hannes3120,

Buying a new replacement totally is upgrading though.

That’s why it’s so rare to find phones with easily changeable batteries as most phones are like new if you just replace that.

ElectroVagrant,

Personally, although the terms have become increasingly blurred over the years, I refer to changing to a new version of software (including an OS, and both ideally with some improvements) as updating it rather than upgrading.

I reserve upgrade more for changes of hardware with some form of improvement over its predecessor. I’d suspect I may not be alone in this, but I dunno how common it may be. When switching to a mix of both, I simply say I’m getting a new [insert specific device depending on which].

Although I’d hesitate to call many new phones an all-around upgrade when they’re either removing features (headphone jack/expandable storage) or getting more cumbersome to hold (can you even call some modern phones a handset anymore?).

ComradeBunnie,
@ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone avatar

I agree with your terminology - updating is for often small incremental software patches.

Upgrade would be a complete program overhaul, or more commonly in my use of it, a change to a newer, better physical product.

Rentlar,

I finally upgraded my phone after 7 years. I had trouble picking out a phone that didn’t remove everything… no headphone jack, no sd card slot and we’re supposed to call that an upgrade? (What I got still has those thankfully)

ShepherdPie,

But it’s got lidar so you can jack off hands-free by gesturing a jerking motion!

ByteMe, (edited )

Same feeling. They are expensive and miss stuff I currently have or they are too big

Rentlar,

Yeah. I paid about 650USD (900CAD) knowing I’d keep this for a few years. I’m still not going to put it on financing.

MxM111,

iPhone XS Max, 2018. The only reason I might update is for the better camera. But this is marginal. I tend to buy one of the top line iPhone once in about 5 years, with enough memory. And they last long time. I might consider changing battery instead and get another 2 years… Apple is also super good with software updates on old hardware.

considine,

Apple is also super good with software updates on old hardware.

Except for that time they deliberately slowed down older phones with software updates so people would buy new phones.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

They deliberately slowed down phones with defective batteries to prevent them from randomly crashing. Which would cause a lot more people to complain than the phone being slower, but not turning off at 30%.

BobaFuttbucker,

It also corrupted data when it did that.

The people complaining about Apple “slowing their phone” are the same people that complained about their phone dying while it still showed the battery at 30% and losing data from it.

It did that because the battery couldn’t supply enough power to run the phone. So which would you prefer? Randomly corrupt data due to a consumed battery, or a slightly slower phone that could maintain stability until you had the chance to replace the battery or phone?

The real mistake Apple made was in the messaging and lack of comprehensive release notes, allowing the news cycle to dominate the narrative.

petrescatraian,

@Blaze I kept my last phone for about 5 years, and it was still quite usable when I left it. But I just lacked space, and I had to be picky even about the apps I needed. Now I plan on keeping the one I have until I no longer receive updates.

Zectivi,

I run GrapheneOS.

I told myself that my Pixel 8 pro will be enough for a bunch of years. That is, until I went on a trip with it. Now I feel like my Pixel 7 was better than the P8P is, with just as good of a camera with better battery life.

I’m glad I kept the p7 as a burner, because I may just make it my prime phone. I only upgraded on the prospect of a long lasting phone and received the p7 for free…

ladfrombrad,
@ladfrombrad@lemdro.id avatar

AP telling me things are not interesting smells like clickbait.

Why the hell did that happen?

EddieTee77,

A guy always testing new phones every month won’t change his daily driver…not that exciting of a story given the access he has

darganon,

I only upgraded for the nicer camera. I have so many pictures that are blurry that I think springing for a little nicer camera is worth it. But yeah, the tech is pretty stagnant.

FinishingDutch,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

For me, it’s just the fact that phones… are phones. They all look the same, function the same, there’s just nothing new happening with them.

Sure, chips get better and faster, they’ll add another camera to it and fiddle with the dimensions a bit, but that’s not innovation. All phones look like boring rectangular slabs.

Back in the late 90’s, phones had way more variety and personality. Candybar, flip, even the sidetalkin’ taco that was the Nokia N-Gage. A Motorola Razr looked nothing like say, a Nokia or Sony Ericsson. And those were distinctly different from your Samsung or Mitsubishi phones (Yes, Mitsubishi made phones!).

I’d love it if we went back to more phone variety, but I fear the smartphone has effectively killed every other style. Most people wouldn’t ditch their big screen smartphone to go back to a small flip phone.

warm,

Foldable phones are coming back. Innovation is there its just a lot slower, probably because releasing the same phone every year makes so much money.

FinishingDutch,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

Well, while those flexible screen flip phones certainly look like neat tech, it’s not the same as the flip phones we used to have.

And it’ll need a few more versions before I’m comfortable buying one. Those screens tend to be just a bit too fragile.

warm,

Yeah right now they are, but that's innovation, making foldable screens and then ultimately making them more durable.

Then cost has to come down aha, cause holy moly.

AbidanYre,

I can’t believe this page still exists

sidetalking.com

FinishingDutch,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

Jesus, that’s a blast from the past for sure!

It really was the thing everyone latched on to with the N-Gage. I actually still own a first gen model that I bought on release. It was actually pretty decent, both as a phone and the games it played. Of course, it never really took off, but I enjoyed using it.

As for the sidetalking… I bought a headset for it to avoid that :D

TurtleTourParty,

The Motorola Droid 2 was my first smartphone and I sorely miss that slide out keyboard with dpad.

FinishingDutch,
@FinishingDutch@lemmy.world avatar

I’ve never had a Droid, but loved every other Motorola that I’ve owned. Including the original StarTac and Razr. They made some really nice phones over the years.

AdmiralShat,

It seems like each new version of Android locks down the file system in some new way that breaks a core part of something I do, so I actively don’t want to upgrade.

I can’t root my phone because I need my banking apps readily avaliable right now.

viking,
@viking@infosec.pub avatar

That’s why I stick with Android 12, all my banking apps work just fine with magisk’s DenyList. Heard that’s getting tricky on 13 or 14.

And I absolutely need root to add system-wide adblocking and security features like Ice Box and Storage Isolation.

kratoz29,

I must be very lucky, but I have never been annoyed at something that Google does since 2020 (the year I got an Android phone and started to root).

Hail, AdAway and Swift Backup already improve my Android experience completely.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble,

This is why I’ve ended up keeping my Pixel 4 on Android 10. I’ve made backups and flashed the latest versions, only to come back because every time they’ve broken something I need the phone to do.

It makes me glad that this is a secondary phone because I can happily keep it on this ancient version of Android and not give a shit about the security.

catloaf,

I’m still bitter about USB mass storage being removed for only MTP. MTP sucks, any time I use it for more than a few small files it always ends up dying partway through.

BearOfaTime,

Yea, don’t waste time with MTP. It’s a hack to enable some access. It’s always been unstable.

Use some kind of network sync tool instead. Syncthing, Resilio Sync, Foldersync, etc.

shortwavesurfer,

I upgrade less than I used to, and I only do mid-range devices now, like the Pixel A series or Motorola G series. That kind of bracket. I’m just going to install Lineage OS on it anyway and it works fine so why pay more when I don’t need that.

KevonLooney,

You can just buy a used phone too. An older pro is going to be better than the new A. Same price too.

shortwavesurfer,

But worse battery life.

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