@cato that still means “first come, first served”. Even if you sign up on advance, all others can do that as well. Also, many shifts don’t appear so early so you will have to wait until the event starts anyway.
@Katti yeah, FCFS is fine. I just prefer to have a fixed schedule when I go into an event. And I would prefer the shifts that are already foreseeable in advance anyway.
@cato only a really small fraction of shifts is foreseeable. Some teams only distribute shifts a day before they are happening. That’s just the way it works 🤷🏻♀️
@cato most tasks are quite spontaneous or only planned one day in advance. Depending on what you want to do you might want to get in contact with specific teams?
@Katti I can only compare it to the security team at the furry con I volunteer at. There, you click together a shift schedule weeks before the event, everyone knows when they need to do what, you can choose between various tasks, and that works great. For ad-hoc shifts, there's a supervisor / shift coordinator that takes care of finding people spontaneously. [...]
@Katti [...] But I also realise that this is a bit different in scale, since the team is usually around 100 members and everything is well planned out in advance.
I guess being in a specific team at Congress would lock me in to a specific kind of shift, which I would find too restrictive
@Katti@cato This, or build up and/or tear down shifts.
I thought I would never be able to click enough shifts, in the end I got to 26 hours (or 24, 2 were a night shift), 6 were tear down shifts.
@Katti yeah, no I get that, I didn't mean to say it was the only reason I'm doing it. It's just a bonus I'll never be able to reach, so I do some shifts for fun but not overdo it
@miketango@cato also if you make them available they will be full weeks in advance and new people don't have the chance to grab some at the event. Think like ticket queue.
Either people who don't register early because they don't know the option are left out or people arriving late. There is no good solution that works for everyone but if you have an idea that nobody had in 10 years feel free to step up and throw it into the ring.
@pennylane@miketango@cato Also, people will sign up for shifts a week or two in advance, then forget it and won't show up. Signup only after arrival makes sense to prevent this. Add signup only a limited time in advance and a fair distribution might be feasible.
@michik@pennylane@miketango my idea was kind of that in reverse, as I said in my second post. But it seems that the core objectives of the Engelsystem are different from what I thought
@cato@michik I guess we're all a little frustrated with the issue because no one ever came up with a really good solution. Just the kind of compromise that keeps as few people angry as possible 😢
@cato es gibt so oder so zu viele Engel für zu wenig Schichten (mindestens) in manchen Bereichen. NOC Helpdesk hatte ~50 Schichten und zur Einführungsveranstaltung sind ~100 Leute dagewesen.
@cato There is an open issue for a slightly different, but similar feature - allow shift signup only some time (e.g. 24 hours) before the shift starts. This would prevent people who arrived first to claim all the attractive shifts. Instead, everyone would have a fair chance e.g. on day 3 for shifts on day 4. How does that sound?
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