@SuperDicq Not sure about regulation, but our peasants here do also face falling sale prices (especially in rice!!), rising costs, powerful and domineering retailers (especially in rice!!), debt, climate change and cheap foreign imports (especially in rice!!). Multiply by 100 and you get the Philippines. :koakuma_giggle:
@mima In western Europe we heavily overproduce food. Food production is already subsidized to shit and these farmers still can't turn a profit they say while living in giant houses and driving expensive cars. On top that our farmers refuse to farm in more eco friendly ways.
So in my opinion our farmers refuse to look at the reality of the situation, don't understand how markets are supposed to work and are just begging for more government handouts. I have zero sympathy.
@SuperDicq@mima is it only meat that's impacted? I haven't followed along in any great detail since it doesn't directly affect me
> We will not starve with a little bit less farming.
I dunno, personally I take food security quite seriously. if it's really just a shift away from meat production and nothing more then that's not so bad although I can't say I agree with those sorts of measures either
@roboneko@mima@SuperDicq i eat meat and will not stop just because people who fly private jets to meetings about how plebs need to starve and live in shacks so they can have more carbon to fly private jets can fly more jets.
@romin@icedquinn@mima@SuperDicq if I can no longer afford meat I think there are some tough questions that need to be asked regarding why the standard of living should be slipping so badly
@romin@roboneko@icedquinn@mima The farmers definitely don't care about homeownership for the general population. The farmers are actually standing in the way of affordable housing.
The Netherlands isn't a very big country so a lot of land used by farmers could be used to build new housing instead.
Also pollution is another reson. Currently we can not build as much housing as we want to build because we have too much pollution. If there's less farming we have more "pollution budget" left over to spend on construction instead, if that makes any sense.
> The farmers are actually standing in the way of affordable housing.
:top_kek: trying to blame government mismanagement on the farmers now? you don't need to turn farmland into housing you need to build up. if you're going to turn farmland into anything then returning it to wilderness would generally be a much better plan
> If there's less farming we have more "pollution budget"
in what specific ways is farming polluting which happen to be interchangeable with construction of all things?
not sure why you need to send soldiers after farmers to do land seizures instead of, y'know, slowly roll off subsidies of goods that are already well above consumption.
there are a lot of weird policies like that in the states too. people being paid not to grow certain crops--even though that land is now a condo and hasn't been farmed for a decade.
@roboneko@SuperDicq@mima@romin i think some of the issue is davos types are literally out giving speeches about how they want to take away your cofe to save the world, and are actively taking measures to do those things, which people do not want to happen, and like always the actual underlying issues are completely ignored :comfywoozy:
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