moffintosh, Italian
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Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

Maybe if the government allowed people to purchase these drugs through foreign pharmacies, foreign labs would produce them. Socialism and "public safety" kills people.

ForbiddenDreamer,
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@Humpleupagus @moffintosh The Sacklers have a right to make a profit like anyone else, that's just classic anti-Semetic rhetoric.

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

By the time you see a doctor etc, markup on generic US Pharmaceuticals is roughly 2000% or more. If the government directly taxed people that much, they'd revolt, but because the costs are hidden via regulatory schemes, everyone thinks it's normal. To call it the failing of capitalism is a bit short sighted. The market is controlled and you're limited to domestic sources.

robbie,
@robbie@justbros.xyz avatar

obviously the market is not free, but I don't think you can implement a version of capitalism that doesn't end up where we are with capitalism. Like, this is the end game of capitalism, no matter how many times you start over with it

Humpleupagus,
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I just want to do drugs. 😒

DutchBoomerMan,
@DutchBoomerMan@decayable.ink avatar

make your own and stop being a pussy about it

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

Calling me a pussy won't make you straight, sir. 🤨

ForbiddenDreamer,
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Humpleupagus,
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How much money do you have?

moffintosh,
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@Humpleupagus
> Socialism and "public safety" kills people.

European countries, which had an immensively more active communist presence since the 1950's, have no problem importing foreign medicines.
What you're seeing here isn't "socialism" nor "public safety", it's just monopoly capital protecting it's profits

Humpleupagus,
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So socialism would be opening foreign markets to create competition so that the prices drop and drugs become available?

moffintosh,
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@Humpleupagus Socialism will plan for drug production, in a similar manner to how private companies already do, but with the aim to maximize the health of the public, instead of profit.
If it can be locally produced it will, if it cannot it will be imported.

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

I don't think you know what socialism is.

moffintosh,
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Humpleupagus,
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I am paying for this mask

marlin,
@marlin@poa.st avatar

@Humpleupagus @moffintosh Explain it to me like I'm a rejected art school applicant.

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

It's the jews.

moffintosh,
@moffintosh@mastodon.cloud avatar

@Humpleupagus Oh btw, have you leaned which german philosopher marxism took an insperation from by subverting it yet?

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

Kant

moffintosh,
@moffintosh@mastodon.cloud avatar

@Humpleupagus Wrong.
This is so bizzare, because it's not like we even hide it.
Hint of the day, you often see his the name of his philosophy together with "materialism", sich as "<philosophy> materialism"

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

It's kant, and you're gay.

moffintosh,
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Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

"Whatever I think is good, like importing drugs to increase supply and lower cost, is socialism, but everything I think is bad is a failing of capitalism." — You

moffintosh,
@moffintosh@mastodon.cloud avatar

@Humpleupagus No, read

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

I'm not reading anything you write from here on out. Feel free to keep posting though.

MasterSimper,
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Maximizing public health would be cutting costs and and letting people with cancer die

moffintosh,
@moffintosh@mastodon.cloud avatar

@MasterSimper @Humpleupagus It isn't.
Or rather, if you want to define "public health" like that you're free to do so, but if so I will define "maximizing the number of people who live healthly while minimizing death and human sufference" as "potatoism"

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

When's the last time you saw a doctor and what did you see them for? 🤔

Dan_Hulson,
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@Humpleupagus @moffintosh National Socialist coming through to tell you Capitalists and Socialists are both gay. Not explaining further get wrecked poofers

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

I just want to get blow from India. It's the shit.

Dan_Hulson,
@Dan_Hulson@poa.st avatar

@Humpleupagus @moffintosh And I want have sex with Chinese women while Smoking Opium you wanna be friends

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

Sure, but it's all kabuki theatre.

Dan_Hulson,
@Dan_Hulson@poa.st avatar

@Humpleupagus @moffintosh Don't be racist you dumb nigger kabuki is Japanese I think you were thinking of BUKKAKE

SaltWraith,
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@Dan_Hulson @Humpleupagus @moffintosh can you even get a boner if you're smoking opium

Dan_Hulson,
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@SaltWraith @Humpleupagus @moffintosh idk mate I take a dozen Viagra before sex anyway

SaltWraith,
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@Dan_Hulson @Humpleupagus @moffintosh you really are a boomer

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

Dan just needs a kickstand because he gets rode like a bicycle.

SaltWraith,
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@Humpleupagus @moffintosh @Dan_Hulson he got rode like his hooker is Lance Armstrong and it's Tour De France

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

He gets rode like Tyrone stole him.

Billy_Hughes,
@Billy_Hughes@nicecrew.digital avatar

They still have opium dens in Laos

Dan_Hulson,
@Dan_Hulson@poa.st avatar

@Billy_Hughes @Humpleupagus @moffintosh I would never go one as I had a bad problem with opiates. Thank you profit driven medical industrial complex very cool

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

I never liked opiates. I want to goooooooooo.....

Dan_Hulson,
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@Humpleupagus @moffintosh @Billy_Hughes you also missed this important poast, fag

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

Like I pay attention to what you say. 🙄

newt,
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@Humpleupagus @moffintosh maybe if there were fewer government regulations and licensing, anyone could've just started a lab and make those drugs.

Humpleupagus,
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newt,
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@Humpleupagus @moffintosh
"We are sorry but your cancer medication wasn't allocated the quota in the current 5 year plan. Please take a number in the waiting line, you will be served your cancer drug once the next 5 year plan takes effect."

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

"And by the way, you're required to buy insurance for the public good, but fuck your health." — Obama

newt,
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@Humpleupagus @moffintosh "you will pay 900 euro monthly for health insurance but you still must wait 3 months for an appointment"

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Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

This is why I'm for getting rid of all prescription regulation, especially needing a prescription to get pharms.

If doctors had to fight for clients rather than being guaranteed jobs by the state due to their regulatory role, someone would see you within a week.

newt,
@newt@stereophonic.space avatar

@Humpleupagus @moffintosh i mean, this is why i dodge mandatory insurance and go to private clinics. They will see you as soon as possible. Next day in the worst case. Isn't it crazy how private enterprises are more efficient than whatever governments come up with?

DutchBoomerMan,
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allow people to grow their own plants and make tinctures

dont care which plant either

Humpleupagus,
@Humpleupagus@eveningzoo.club avatar

Oleander it is. 🤷‍♂️

DutchBoomerMan,
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i can kill you with 5 buxus leaves and a shotgun

Humpleupagus,
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The Shotgun will definitely help

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