Meemoo,
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"oh, a HSR stream, let's see what the players are talking ab-"

Tamamo,

@Meemoo I just can't get into HSR. Story suffers the same problem as Genshin, the MC is just a fucking errant boy to solve other peoples shit while occasionally focusing on the main plot.
Honkai Impact part 2 will suffer the exact same problem now that it has a shitty self insert instead of a proper MC like Kiana.

Meemoo,
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@Tamamo I don't even play the game yet I already see a pattern in their writing from people's posts about the story

>Introduce a girl
>She's into you
>Kill her for shock value
>Except she's not actually dead and her fate is left ambiguous

Yes, they did it in 2.0, again.

Vidmastereon,
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@Meemoo @Tamamo yeah still chasing the impact of himekos sacrifice but not understanding what made it so strong

Tamamo,

@Vidmastereon @Meemoo For one we got to actually know Himeko and Elysia.

I bet the suits at homoverse are still seething at the writer for killing off Elysia given her insane popularity and her merch printing money.
I'm honestly surprised they haven't brought her back as an expy in HSR.

Tamamo,

@Meemoo They did it with Starrail too with Tingyun.

Only problem is she acted like a total cunt to the player because it was actually an imposter and after that is revealed and the real Tingyun is missing we're supposed to be believe she was a great person and they do some over the top emotional funeral cutscene. (but she's never confirmed dead) :reimu_sigh:

Meemoo,
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@Tamamo I hear even fans are calling the story shit.

It's so blatant how creatively bankrupt they are.
The game is completely carried by their character designs

Tamamo,

@Meemoo >The game is completely carried by their character designs

Problem is characters are completely disposable. They keep shitting out new ones that get 10 minutes of story and the majority are never seen again.
Early HI3 did it right in the early days by powering up old characters with new suits and keeping them story relevant. But after Genshin they just kept shitting out new characters instead.

Echigo,

@Tamamo @Meemoo Can confirm in Genshin. Launch characters rarely get attention from Mihoyo anymore, especially the 4 stars. There are launch 4 stars like Sucrose and Xinyan that STILL don’t have their Hangout events, yet new 4 stars get theirs almost immediately when they come out.

Tamamo,

@Echigo @Meemoo Do Keqing and Qiqi have their character quests yet? :doge_laugh:

Echigo,

@Tamamo @Meemoo Most definitely not. Mihoyo cares less about them than the players do because they aren’t meta, therefore they aren’t popular.

Tamamo,

@Echigo @Meemoo One thing i loved so fucking much in Blue Archive part 1 finale is that every single character made an appearance.

Also older characters get buffs in the form of a personal item.

Vidmastereon,
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@Echigo @Tamamo @Meemoo as meemoo said these games are pure adhd zoomer junk food think about why you cant replay story missions
Look around a bit and move on to the next section of the theme park
This extends to the characters
Character isnt popular? Characters kit needs tweaks or even a rework? Too bad pay attention to the brand new character

Tamamo,

@Vidmastereon @Echigo @Meemoo Remember Augment cores in HI3 to fix poor/outdated characters? Everyone loved those... Then Genshin came along.

supersid333,

@Tamamo @Vidmastereon @Echigo @Meemoo Epic Seven has a functional system to update old units, but then to get them you need to farm a currency from the challenge boss mode to buy them from a shop, this shop only has the most recent handful of them, these items also have a 1 and 3 chance of giving you the buff you want (Each Exclusive Equipment has 3 seperate buffs that you are given a random one of when you buy them). For older buffs you have to craft them using the ones you don't want, but you only get the first skill for it this way unless you spend 7-10 exclusive equipment in the crafting to get the ability to choose a skill.

I'm remembering why I stopped playing Epic Seven.

Minty,
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@Tamamo @Meemoo "y'know what my fast pace waifu action game needs? A bunch of meaningless errands and a dude" I'm sorry for your loss fren :ars_pat:

Tamamo,

@Minty @Meemoo "Lets retcon the story as well so we can turn the remaining loli's into big titty banner bait"

Meemoo,
@Meemoo@varishangout.net avatar

@Tamamo @Minty still so fucking mad over that

I would've still played the game despite everything had they not murdered the lolis

Tamamo,

@Meemoo @Minty The godawful salt sanctuary arc already pissed me off. Ruining Teri was the cherry on top.

Oh look the Vodka twins! Finally their time to shine and grow on an adventure with Seele.
Lol no. Enjoy Kira and Sussanah because fuck you we need to sell you their battlesuits.

Minty,
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@Tamamo @Meemoo nono you don't get it they are tryna get in on them genshin bucks baby. It's all about those normie dollars, core player base? Fuck the core playerbase, gotta reach those mythical larger audiences baby. :sussyjew:

Vidmastereon,
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@Tamamo @Meemoo is it just me or are current year blank slate self insert characters different in some way from old ones
I cant put my finger on it but i like master chief despite being a green suit of armor but am annoyed by hoyoverse mcs

Tamamo,

@Vidmastereon @Meemoo As master chef you actually followed a clear goal and it was a power fantasy.
A current year homoverse selfinsert you're a gimp solving everyone's problems except your own. Also since you are the starter character you are weak as hell.

Meemoo,
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You know a game is shit when the vast majority of players talk more about another game than the one they are playing

These people are so mentally ill that they think supporting another game from the same company is somehow an own of sorts

Tamamo,

@Meemoo Their more generous with HSR because there is fuck all to do in the game once you run out of main story except SU and their version of Abyss.

And i can't even be fucked to do those because team building is a pain in the ass because of the sheer amount of characters.

Meemoo,
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@Tamamo yeah I saw the red flags during launch and dipped

I played both HI3 and Genshit, the latter more so, so I know the ins and outs of their bullshit.
Everything is on a scripted pattern and copypasted from Genshin.

I'm not surprised people are going back to playing genshin instead, I called that shit right from the beta.

Tamamo,

@Meemoo Genshin at least has the comfy exploration aspect. HSR has none of that. Its just battle battle battle

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