@Countermeasures thank you friend. i am going to talk to pete about this today. he seems set on revolver as the reincarnation for FSE but I have tried repeatedly to buy him new hardware. FSE is one of my favourite instances and i have been willing always to put up new hardware for it. but he seems stuck on not putting lipstick on a pig, so to speak. leave this with me for a day and i'll talk to him