silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

I wanna go to university in America. And also get a gun. I can't wait to take it to school.
See? I'm American already!

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas after your first 48-60 hour work week, then you'll be American...

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo silly American. Thinking I would work somewhere that made you work that long.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar
silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo yea. That's why I posted a thing couple days ago. Saying I don't even think I would ever get a job at an American company. Lol. Because I would just tell whoever was doing the interview with me to go fuck yourself. If there's less than 25.. Preferably 30 days off. And if there was more than a 40 hour work week.
I would just actually not take that at all.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas you want a part-time job. They don't pay nearly as well.

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo a 9 to 5 is considered a part time job?

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas no, but I don't know many people who actually work a 9-5 hourly job

Most people with an office 9-5 are salary, and they'll make you work over whenever they feel like it. You're already getting paid.

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo well yea I get the same money each month too. Excluding like inflation or Christmas bonuses and stuff like that. But obviously the time gets tracked and added up for you to leave early another day or take more full days off. Or you can request it to be paid out in cash. But almost no one does it. Because why pay taxes if you can get like 10 extra days off or whatever it ends up being.

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo I would actually find it really shitty if the money transferred to me varied based on how much I worked that month. Planning around that seems stupid. Especially because/when it is outside of your control how many hours you work.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas ROFL 🤣

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo hey what. In the days of people spending sometimes half or even more of their wage on rent, not knowing how much money you will get next time is pretty shitty. I would say at least.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas if you are an hourly employee you know how much you'll get paid based on how many hours you work

First 40 are for straight time, after that you get overtime pay

It's simple math, you're German, won't be hard to figure that out

If you don't work, you don't get paid. It's a simple system.

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo yes but if the company makes your schedule then you dont necessarily know what amount of hours you will be able to work.

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo also getting paid weekly is just a measure to hide how little they pay you in reality. Unless the world is drastically different over there, most recurring stuff you pay for on a monthly basis.
Or do Americans pay netflix and their gas bill every week. I don't know thst actually.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas my last job paid every two weeks, but weekly is the norm.

Most bills are monthly

Is math so hard that you can't figure out how much you're getting paid hourly?

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo no I just don't think people would put that much thought into how much they get paid and if it is fair. Especially if in American culture talking about how much you earn is a taboo for some reason. Why is that btw?

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas it's rude

In polite company, you're not supposed to talk about:

  • Politics
  • Money
  • Religion
  • Sex

It's not as strict as it once was, but it's still considered rude.

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo I can see those other points like politics and sex be rude to ask someone about. But we also talked about politics before. We are Germans though. We actually respect pretty much everyone's political opinion usually and then life continues. It's a common topic at things like Christmas family events and similar things too.

Those are personal things though. So I get why thst could be considered rude. But your salary is not a personal topic.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas sure, you should come here and do it. Then explain to people, when you piss them off, why they shouldn't be offended.

"Listen, it's stupid for you to be angry and I'm gonna explain why..." 🤣

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo well lol I just don't think it is. It's not like you get an allowance from your wife and I'mnasking about that. It's Literally a professional topic. Because the company gives you money for a job.

And maybe that's a German thing. No one is gonna get mad at you or judge you for making more or less. At the company they will if it is reasonable to do so. Lol.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas but they will get mad here

I'm just telling you

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo yeah well. I guess that is what you have to put up with in a country with people who have only 2 braincells. Lol. At least for most it seems this is the case.
What if instead of asking my coworker what they make, I say "do you think X Dollars an hour for me starting out is a fair wage?"
Asking the same thing but from the opposite. Chances are I get more than they do or did in the beginning and take out their gun anyways.. But maybe that way is better.

silas,
@silas@noauthority.social avatar

@FortyTwo also I guess the problem also is. Here we talked about what... I dont know the English term. But like what class of wage you are in. Because the union has these wage classes negotiated. Which does have wiggleroom. You will get extra percentages each year on your own. But finding out you are for example in class 5 when others are in 7 would be shitty.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@silas a plumber can make more than a doctor here in the US

Just depends on where you live and how much you're willing to work

Evil_Bender,
@Evil_Bender@nicecrew.digital avatar

He'll make more until his 50's where the doctor will have an income explosion. Once that $200k in student loans is paid off that $175k+ income is pretty tits.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@Evil_Bender @silas house and everything is paid for by then, as long as he's taken rudimentary precautions

Evil_Bender,
@Evil_Bender@nicecrew.digital avatar

My dad was a doctor so I saw a lot of young starting out guys in residency, and still talk to a few. Most are apartment folk until their 40's. They go where the opportunity is in specialized fields.

FortyTwo,
@FortyTwo@noauthority.social avatar

@Evil_Bender @silas makes sense

Medical school, hell college in general, has gotten too expensive. The onerous cost of compliance when Obamacare further compounds that.

We'll have a doctor crisis in the US within 10-20 years. I think it's already started.

Evil_Bender,
@Evil_Bender@nicecrew.digital avatar

The doctor crisis is already here. In 20 years ot will be a full blown shortage. Current doctors with 10 or less years in are just glorified drug pushers. Very few have mental diagnostic abilities and rely heavily on labs. Medical school is plagued by political correctness, I knew a guy out of the Army who was a rad tech that damn near aced the MCAT. He got denied alot, and for lesser candidates. He's a doctor now, but he was a pissed mother fucker in 2008.

Humpleupagus,
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Doctors are a joke. A TI-83 could read labs.

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