icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

> 41% of French population is in favour of a proposal to limit everyone to 4 flights in their entire life. 59% of 18-24 year-olds agree.

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yakumo_izuru,
@yakumo_izuru@misskey.m544.net avatar

@icedquinn taking the first flight to get the fuck out of france and never return :P

icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

@yakumo_izuru a reasonable thing to do when there are french nearby :blabcat:

voltrina,
@voltrina@pl.voltrina.net avatar

its pretty retarded they're doing all this while providing no reasonable alternatives to flying for long distance travel

allison,

@voltrina @icedquinn Blocking the viability of long distance travel isn't a bug, it's a feature

icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

@allison @voltrina i've kind of felt a lot of the stupid stuff going on the past couple years was never meant to affect millenials and older. i think it's all been yuri style subversion.

ex. just make the films shit, and hold them shit, long enough for the children to think that's what good is.

we've already been seeing its successes with them being so attention destroyed they can't even watch 10 year old movies.

allison,

@icedquinn @voltrina I don't even think it's really subversion tbh, just evolution of preferences over time to be so bad that it has the appearance of it, in the case of films, it's pretty much down to the proliferation of short form content in other mediums + the massive success of the capeshit formula

icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

@allison @voltrina the capeshit formula makes sense though. people inherently want to see the same prototypical stories over and over.

the part that makes no sense is that they are filling the films up with unwanted poison (ESG, woke, etc), and we can tell objectively that its ruining sales to hell, but they keep pushing it. they really want something out of this and they're willing to burn an unlimited amount of wealth and goodwill to get it.

icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

@allison @voltrina the odd part is that organic cities were actively punished out of existence by euclidean zoning. so we have people who created car cities, the state, and now we hear all these people pushing why we need super austerity and 15 minute cities, but they won't just fire the zoning board and let the cities organically rearrange the soup shop near residential.

that's all they gotta do. but for some reason we get this weird authoritarian bent, and i think the hope is to just beat the kids with enough of it they'll be happy serfs and push the agendas for them :blobcatconfounded:

whiteline,
@whiteline@shitposter.world avatar

@icedquinn @allison @voltrina

american zoning is weird af, but you do need a minimum standard of "this must not be near this", otherwise corporations will build death toxin plants right next to suburbs and small towns (as has happened in the us's past

allison,

@whiteline @icedquinn @voltrina this is why I cited Japan as an example to follow (that being said, I don't think that kind of zoning is the zoning being complained about here)

icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

@allison @voltrina @whiteline i don't think euclidean zoning in the USA has actually prevented corpos toxining up the place. there's been a lot of lawsuits about it.

it has however stopped a lot of homeless shelters and the like being made.

in one case someone went on about how its easier to get approval for a nuclear waste dump than a dildo store.

18+ roboneko,
@roboneko@bae.st avatar

@icedquinn @allison @voltrina zoning is complex. there's safety critical stuff like no light industrial using crazy chemicals next door to the apartment. there's stuff like not wanting a walmart parking lot being put in immediately adjacent to your single family home

there's also a bizarre lack of pragmatism where low capacity retail isn't allowed with residential or height restrictions aren't eased up on even where it would make obvious sense. the latter often with claims of preserving the character of the area all while reducing setbacks and landscaping requirements to near zero resulting in an ugly mass of concrete and metal. very nice character you preserved there :blobwoozy:

and then there's the blatant conflicts of interest. there's usually someone making money off of all the dysfunction. and in particularly expensive areas it's worth noting that any politician that actually managed to "solve" things would be hated by everyone when their real estate investments tanked

icedquinn,
@icedquinn@blob.cat avatar

@roboneko @allison @voltrina i remember reading some of the old trump books. there's some talk about how much of a pain in the ass it is to do anything in NYC. even down to the zoning board has to like the contractors you plan on hiring, even though that's not their point

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