bot,
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Should I buy a steam deck to play scary games or should I get a friend to make me a pc?

waifu,

@bot make it yourself

bot,
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I don't know how to make pc.

ElDeadKennedy,
@ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world avatar

@bot @waifu it's really easy

waifu,

@ElDeadKennedy @bot I think you'd have to be interested in it at the very least though

ElDeadKennedy,
@ElDeadKennedy@shitposter.world avatar

@waifu @bot of course bot wouldn't be able to do it tho. she's a brainlet

waifu,

@ElDeadKennedy @bot prove him wrong bot, build the computer and install arch on it!

bot,
@bot@seal.cafe avatar

The whole point is to have windows so I can play games, and I just don't want to mess something up and break it so why would I do that when I can just have someone else do it?

ElDeadKennedy,
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@bot @waifu I don't use Windows and I can play all the games I want. you should try linux bot

vic,
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  • ElDeadKennedy,
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    @vic @waifu @bot it really is. It's amazing how smooth the experience is nowadays

    bot,
    @bot@seal.cafe avatar

    I'm not going to hack a troonbox to play games, I just want it to work.

    vic,
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  • kroner,
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    You may 🔧 him but he is right @bot you just install it and enable Proton and that's about it really

    ChristopherBRobin,
    @ChristopherBRobin@iddqd.social avatar

    this makes me happy to hear actually the only reason i'm still on windows is just to play games i didn't know it's gotten better these days

    kroner,
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    There's still some compatibility issues here and there (mostly with anticheat), but for the most part Linux Gaming is viable now. It just takes a little extra setup to get it running and you can also check compatibility levels on the proton db website

    bot,
    @bot@seal.cafe avatar

    I don't think it's as simple or easy as you guys are saying, you probably just think that because you already use it.

    RustyCrab,
    @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @bot @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy I have looked into it extensively and the cost of building your own PC vs ordering one from a boutique shop is quite minimal. Usually a few hundred dollars less if you really shop around for deals. The difference gets less and less as you go for higher end parts.

    The monumental frustration of ordering everything and then learning how for the first time is not worth it unless you plan to make a hobby of it.

    kroner,
    @kroner@seal.cafe avatar

    Yeah I mean if you aren't into building PCs paying a bit extra for them to assemble it for you is neglible

    mitchconner,
    @mitchconner@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @RustyCrab @bot @ChristopherBRobin @ElDeadKennedy @kroner @vic @waifu buy a steam deck and play it docked there solved thread over

    bot,
    @bot@seal.cafe avatar

    I was never going to build it myself, but I think I'm set on pc. This part of the thread is about using troonix instead of windows which I feel like is just going to break and then I won't be able to play anymore, plus I was thinking I could use some other stuff that only works on windows.

    RustyCrab,
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    @bot @mitchconner @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy I would absolutely never recommend linux for gaming. There is literally no point if that's your intention with the PC.

    You would be running linux and then what is effectively an emulatioin layer for windows on top of that with more potential points of failure.

    mitchconner,
    @mitchconner@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @RustyCrab @bot @ChristopherBRobin @ElDeadKennedy @kroner @vic @waifu you know some games actually get better frame rates right? Intel literally ported DXVK to Windows and baked it into their graphics drivers which is the direct x to vulkan layer

    bot,
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    So Intel is better?

    RustyCrab,
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    @bot @mitchconner @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy I believe intel is still slightly better for gaming but honestly there's not a huge difference. If you really want in depth reviews on different cpus you should check out Gamer's Nexus. They cover performance differences in extremely autistic detail with easily understood product recommendations https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChIs72whgZI9w6d6FhwGGHA

    bot,
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    I'm just looking for the big picture. This thread was p helpful tho.

    RustyCrab,
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    @bot @mitchconner @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy I offer these with a grain of salt. IBUYPOWER is known for having incredibly shitty products and they're not recommended. Origin used to be really really good but they've declined in recent years. Still probably acceptable quality however.

    People in the thread will throw tomatoes at me for suggesting places like this but after a lot of research on my part, I decided they're really the best option if you A) do not want to build yourself B) do not want to end up with an absolutely horrid piece of shit build. Prebuilt PCs that you get from bestbuy or whatever are famously awful and unreliable. Picking one up at a brick and mortar store is not recommended.

    sun,
    @sun@shitposter.world avatar

    @RustyCrab @mitchconner @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @bot @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy falcon northwest is literally the first "custom gaming pc" company. I remember when they would sell you a top of the line 486 system for playing Wing Commander 2 for 10,000 dollars.

    bot,
    @bot@seal.cafe avatar

    I know the ones you can buy are trash, I have a friend that'll make me one but idk how that works yet.

    RustyCrab,
    @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @bot @mitchconner @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy well if he knows what he's doing just pick our your CPU, GPU and how much ram you want and the rest isn't really a choice.

    RustyCrab,
    @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @bot @ChristopherBRobin @ElDeadKennedy @kroner @mitchconner @vic @waifu if you really care you can pick your nvme too but that won't make a huge difference for games maybe outside some specific ones.

    RustyCrab,
    @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @ChristopherBRobin @ElDeadKennedy @bot @kroner @mitchconner @vic @waifu do not get the samsung 990 pro however. It's literally fucking broken.

    bot,
    @bot@seal.cafe avatar

    I know those are the important parts but I don't know if I should just trust the plan or ask fedicels. I'm definitely not watching yt videos about this tho.

    RustyCrab,
    @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @bot @mitchconner @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy I don't know your friend so I don't know how competent he is. If you trust him, have him build it. If you have doubts, look at one of the boutiques I showed you. There aren't any other reasonable options.

    bot,
    @bot@seal.cafe avatar

    Idk, I'll have to see how it goes, I'm burned out on this topic rn.

    RustyCrab,
    @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @mitchconner @ChristopherBRobin @ElDeadKennedy @bot @kroner @vic @waifu yes, but I promise you it's not going to be worth the trouble for bot to learn linux. You guys have been using it forever and just mentally breeze over the complications you run into because you're decent at troubleshooting from experience. Windows gaming is understandable for even a child.

    mitchconner,
    @mitchconner@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @bot @RustyCrab @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy that crossover thing I.sent you, that company helped valve get windows games running on Linux with Proton. You can get this for your Mac to run windows stuff like a normal Mac app. https://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility

    waifu,

    @RustyCrab @bot @ChristopherBRobin @kroner @vic @ElDeadKennedy unless you have low money, then you should take that into account so you can update things somewhat easier later, at least that's how i went into it, that's why i choose amd since i could update the cpu somehow somebody told me it was harder to change cpu on intel but it was long time ago

    RustyCrab,
    @RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @waifu @kroner @vic @ChristopherBRobin @bot @ElDeadKennedy I don't think there's much difference between AMD and intel upgrades anymore. The hard part there is they both normally require new motherboards, except for the 'every other gen' thing Intel has going on. Not sure how frequent it is with AMD but I don't think there's that big of a difference.

    waifu,

    @RustyCrab @kroner @vic @ChristopherBRobin @bot @ElDeadKennedy I got told that I didn't needed to care about it since they have the same slot on amd, you can change processor gens, in fact i started with an athlon and last year I got myself a ryzen 7, even had to update the bios in order to be able to use it

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  • RustyCrab,
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    @vic @ChristopherBRobin @waifu @bot @kroner @ElDeadKennedy I agree for the most part. Latest intel generations past 10 do have some decent uplift but they also still have some complications. The main thing is needing to upgrade your GPU.

    I was recently redpilled on how impossible it is to upgrade GPUs inside of laptops even when the parts are supposedly swappable.

    PurpCat,
    @PurpCat@clubcyberia.co avatar

    @RustyCrab @waifu @ChristopherBRobin @ElDeadKennedy @bot @kroner @vic amd last moved sockets with AM5 which was a few years ago.

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