I think the best way to get more users is to get more of the existing users to post (more) stuff. People aren’t going to pay much attention to a smaller instance like this if it doesn’t seem active (especially with all the defederation), and even just getting more of the current userbase to be more active would help with the “ghost town” feeling. Maybe we could have an Introductions community or weekly pinned https://burggit.moe/c/discussions thread or something. More community variety would probably also help, even if it’s just porn (at least it’d give people more of a reason to be here). I wonder, how many people are fine with loli (or any specific genre of porn) but aren’t really into it?
I wonder, how many people are fine with loli (or any specific genre of porn) but aren’t really into it?
I kind of fit that. I like “teen” loli stuff, but most loli art is too young for me. Sometimes I can overlook it if it’s a particularly hot scenario though.
I’m sure a lot of people are like that. It used to be very common on every hentai site (on many it still is) and on sites like Reddit, and art sites. Some people complained, most didn’t seem to care. There seems to be have some pressure put on a lot of websites (by advertisers? payment processors?) around the same time. Maybe also when Australia declared that drawn content was CP. Reddit cracked down on the loli subreddits (including SFW), booru sites like Gelbooru and E621 made it so you have to log in to see loli content, even 4chan doesn’t allow loli on most boards now. This only happened in the west though, sites like Pixiv still have a ton.
So to a new internet user, it seems like this stuff is much more rare/forbidden, but I’m sure everyone didn’t actually change how they feel in the past 10 years. Most people are like “eh, as long as it’s drawn, whatever” and although a minority, that content remains EXTREMELY popular on the sites that have it. A lot of people won’t admit they’re into it though. In a similar vein, now it’s considered bad to admit you’re tolerant of it on websites you use at all.
I’m pretty sure the change was due to the credit card companies cracking down on it, so the payment processors had to comply. I vaguely remember there being some sort of US government program to “encourage” them to do so, but I could be wrong on that.
The fact that the whole phone is a unit is both absurd and stupid. It makes it nearly impossible to repair or replace anything but the screen. I cannot even remember how many phones I have been forced to recycle due to the fact that the battery no longer hold charge over time.
Storage might not be a big thing, most of us probably use cloud storage, but I don’t want cloud storage with a subscription fee, when it would be easier (and cheaper) to have storage directly in my phone.
I’m going to say it - fuck bluetooth! Every day it’s: will it connect? Do I have to re-pair? Is the sound really coming out of my headphones only or do everyone around me here what I hear?
You don’t need to pay a subscription fee for cloud storage when it’s super simple to host your own, and Android allows the mounting of different filesystems too.
SMB on a rasp pi + cheapo storage + Tailscale, all the way to paying £$€ for a dedicated NAS enclosure with as much storage as you can afford also with Tailscale?
Yup, fuck subscription fees.
You also can then use the corporate cloud storage providers like G/ProtonDrive etc to use their free offerings for off site backup of the most important data.
Amen! The only thing keeping me from upgrading from my Note 20 Ultra is the lack of options for SD card slots! The idea of having to pay a premium for storage each time I upgrade my device is insulting and terrible for personal finances. And with all the recent headlines about cloud storage being hacked, or how it was inaccessible, I wouldn’t trust it even if I always had access to an internet connection (which I don’t always have, especially when out and about).
Hell, they could upcharge this “feature” and have it available only on the Ultra models to help justify the exhorbitant cost and I would pay it.
Counter argument: I get frustrated when people complain about the lack of SD card and headphone jack on every phone that doesn’t have those. I get it some people really want those features but do they really expect manufacturers to add them after they’ve gone? Sony’s the only manufacturer that changed course and they only did it because they’re a niche brand with an audience that appreciates those features.
I feel it’s foolish to expect someone like Google to suddenly change their mind because someone on the internet said they wouldn’t buy their phones without those features. They’ve not had expendable storage on any Nexus or Pixel phone except for the Nexus One and the jack has been gone since the Pixel 2. I know the A series had it longer but it’s been two generations since it’s disappeared from there as well.
For whatever it’s worth, I would like to have the headphone jack personally but it’s not a dealbreaker if it’s not there. Don’t care about the SD card and wouldn’t use it anyways since it’s extremely slow compared to internal storage and I’ve had a bad experience when I’ve used it on previous phones when it got corrupted and I lost a significant amount of pictures. Didn’t use it for apps because I knew it would result in slower load times so was really disappointed when it got corrupted. I’m not the only one who thinks this way, app developers hate the SD card too. Linus Sebastian also said that someone in the industry said it has gone away because of performance concerns.
Note: this isn’t aimed at you, it’s just a rant against the “no SD card, no 3.5 mm, no buy” crowd that always posts those comments whenever some phone doesn’t have it.
That's not really a counter argument, you're just complaining about people talking about hardware features they want in a thread about...hardware features we want.
A counter argument would elaborate on why these features aren't relevant anymore, but you didn't include that. A counter argument would offer superior alternatives that should be used instead of SD cards or 3.5mm jacks, but you didn't include any of those. A counter argument would have addressed the initial arguments of cloud storage being an unnecessary expense and a wired jack being more reliable than Bluetooth, yet you didn't do that either.
Every thread about hardware has at least one guy bitching that phones should still have 3.5mm jacks and expandable storage, but the guy whining about him is just as consistent. Congratulations, you're a different layer of the exact problem you're complaining about.
My comment mentioned why the SD card was removed. To paraphrase Linus, they’re the cheapest form of NAND storage and are extremely unreliable. When they fail, the average consumer blames the phone and not the cheap SD card they put into it. I’m not a fan of cloud storage but most people do not need anything other than the base variant now since it comes with 128 GB out of the box. Some manufacturers are even offering 256 GB.
I also mentioned that I’d like having the jack but it’s not a dealbreaker that it’s gone. Also doubt we would have seen as much progress with truly wireless earbuds if more manufacturers did not remove the headphone jack. I know some people detest them and think they’re a cash grab but they’re a game changer when it comes to exercising and moving around. However I’ll agree that removing the jack also opened another revenue stream for manufacturers which could be construed as a cash grab.
Additionally I stated my point wasn’t directly at the OP but was a rant at the senseless “no jack, no SD card, DOA” comment which can be seen at the launch of a phone who’s manufacturer hasn’t included those features for 5 or more years. It’s just beating a dead horse at this point. It is like expecting CRT TVs to be the default instead of flat TVs. CRTs also had advantages but the market has moved on. Additionally I think it might be better to actually comment about a phone having a headphone jack or SD card slot or both of those since that’s a much more positive way of looking at things since not having them is the default now.
My comment mentioned why the SD card was removed. To paraphrase Linus, they’re the cheapest form of NAND storage and are extremely unreliable.
Your comment mentioned why you personally don't like using SD cards, though I disagree that it's a reason to remove the functionality completely, which is why I wouldn't buy a phone without a slot. If you're having such reliability issues, you should buy a higher quality SD card. They're objectively more reliable than cloud storage though, should you ever go somewhere where network connectivity is an issue. And 128 GB is almost nothing, kinda proving my point that this is more of a use case point than an argument against the feature.
Also if they hadn’t removed the jack I doubt we would have seen as much progress with truly wireless earbuds.
Given that they're still using Bluetooth, which is still terrible with any interference, low bandwidth, and has the same tedious connectivity problems it's had for the past decade...I'd argue we have yet to see that progress where it matters.
the market has moved on.
If that were true, there wouldn't be so many people vocally expressing why new products aren't adequate without these basic features.
My initial comment also mentioned why developers hated the SD card slot. To quote Koush
The SD card needs to go away. It’s a nightmare for developers. There’s too much variability here. SD Cards can be slow, resulting in poor app performance. They can come and go, or be swapped, and that results in unpredictable behavior if an app was expecting an SD card. One contiguous block of data needs to become the standard here (with different OEM SKUs for more/less storage), as it has been on iOS since the first iPhone.
The comments from Linus came from an industry insider he said he trusts. I would be inclined to believe him since he used to carry a Note9 and was a massive advocate of SD cards.
Also don’t think the reliability of the cards was an issue when I got them, they were high rated Samsung and Sandisk models.
And 128 GB is almost nothing, kinda proving my point that this is more of a use case point than an argument against the feature.
You’re looking at this from the point of a power user and not the average person. Most normal people just get the base variant when they see it has 128 GB and are happy with it.
They’re objectively more reliable than cloud storage though, should you ever go somewhere where network connectivity is an issue
I mentioned I dislike cloud storage but with USB-C ports I can actually use my external SSD or a USB drive to backup my phone if I want to although it’s not something I do often.
Given that they’re still using Bluetooth, which is still terrible with any interference, low bandwidth, and has the same tedious connectivity problems it’s had for the past decade…I’d argue we have yet to see that progress where it matters.
When was the last time you used a Bluetooth headset? I had issues initially in 2018 and 2019 but things like the Galaxy Buds+ and newer generations of truly wireless earbuds have fixed the connectivity and interference issues. Some Bluetooth headphones support LDAC and LHDC codecs which allow for high bandwidth. LDAC is part of AOSP so it should be on every Android phone running Oreo or newer unless the OEM has removed it for some reason.
If that were true, there wouldn’t be so many people vocally expressing why new products aren’t adequate without these basic features.
That’s because there are a small group of enthusiasts who are extremely vocal. Most people have moved on, they may want one or both features but they aren’t dealbreakers for them. Also wouldn’t say a bunch of enthusiasts complaining means it expresses the sentiments of everyone. Look at the outcry about the iPhone mini, it didn’t sell very well but online communities would have you believe it was the most popular device of that lineup.
When they fail, the average consumer blames the phone and not the cheap SD card they put into it.
I remember I received a notification about a card that was about to fail or something, because it was too old. That was on an older Huawei phone but still. So I don't think it's this usual for people not to be aware that their SD cards would soon go away (instead of thinking they have a problem with their phones).
Not sure if all manufacturers do this, there are also instances where the user might set up the SD card as adoptable storage which would make it hard to differentiate between internal storage and the SD card.
How many people are going to read that properly? We’re not just talking about enthusiasts, regular users will do it if they get the option and think they can store their apps on there.
I like expandable storage, as I usually keep the SD card as a secondary partition. If my phone dies for whatever reason, I just pull that card out and stick it into a new phone.
Well yeah NAND has a certain amount of read/write cycles but it’s always going to be an issue with SD cards because they’re using the cheapest form of NAND. As a result of that they’re not going to get some of the complex safety mechanisms that are built into internal NAND. So I think we’ll have to disagree here.
I’m not against expandable storage at all, I wish more phones did have it as an option to be clear.
I am curious what exactly is going on these SD cards that everyone wants though. I personally haven’t gotten close to my storage limit since the default internal memory was 32GB.
I travel quite a bit, both for work and because I like going places. Often, internet is somewhere between unavailable and shitty. I keep a mess of music, movies, and tv shows synced/cached from Plex (which keeps fresh content via downloaded smart playlists that update as I watch episodes, etc.) and usually a couple of audiobooks in case I find myself making a long drive.
I'd love to see those features in phones today; all of those are basically dead in the US market (Xperia 1 V gets two out of three, Zenfone 10 at least gets the 3.5mm jack...might be some cheap Motorola something that still has a jack, as well?).
Me personally, I could even live with just the 3.5mm jack. The whole argument of "it's for waterproofing/making the phone thinner/insert BS excuse here" falls flat when my Galaxy S9 has a 3.5mm jack and the same IP68 rating as the Pixel 8, yet manages to be thinner.
I have maintained for a while that if phones came with 2 USB ports instead of just 1 you could have your cake and eat it too. My biggest gripe with the lack of a headphone jack is that I can’t charge my phone and listen at the same time. 2 ports, one on each side for right and left handed people to pick their favorite charging location and you get a ton of other options for peripherals that way.
At this point, I'd honestly be fine with that too. Unfortunately it looks like one of the only ones around that has two USB-C ports is the Asus ROG Phone 7 & 7 Ultimate, which both already have a headphone jack too, lol.
@xyguy the M8 was indeed top notch. A friend in highschool had it and those speakers were really great. It also had a slow motion camera which he used to create amazing videos. That was something I craved for every phone to this day (my current phone now has it fortunately). Not to mention the aluminum body and its relatively solid design. I accidentally stepped on it while with screen down and it had nothing. By the time I was able to get my first phone though, the M8 was no longer on sale. They had the M9 but I didn't know if it would be the same experience.
I also had a great experience with the Lenovo Yoga Tab 8. It also had an aluminum body and a kickstand which proved itself really useful. I don't remember watching a movie on it this way, but it was useful in college. And the battery could last me for about a full week! Also plenty of space, as despite having only 16GB of storage, the system had only 2-3 at most. I don't remember ever hitting the threshold, even though I did install some games here and there. Also, it came with a free version of Kingsoft Office (now rebranded to WPS Office) that had no ads. And it could connect to Google Drive. I kept using that version for as long as I could. And it also had front-facing speakers.
I think the hardware of the Yoga series is the thing that I cannot live without. I know there are ways to attach a keyboard to a regular tablet and keep it in an upright position as well, but the fact that the Yoga can be placed in so many positions makes it extremely useful imo. Not to mention the slightly bulkier base can be fitted with a larger battery and can also be used as a handle to hold your tablet when reading. If I'm getting a tablet again, I think it will surely be another Yoga (I see they still produce the model). I wish it had a removable battery as well though.
From what I remember, the M9 had some issues with processor overheating and didn’t live up to the M8 legacy. Id love to see a tablet with a proper kickstand come back around. I got a first generation Microsoft Surface when I went to college and the kickstand on it just wasn’t good. Plus the battery life was awful. I ended up selling it and just buying a regular laptop. That Yoga sounds like what I wished the Surface would have been.
Funny you mention that, I had the M7/8 like OP and also had one of those Dot Matrix cases for mine which gave you a second screen so to speak. You could even use custom apps with it.
Another thing I bought at the time was one of these for the headphone jack. Never really caught on thou :/
For a while I had one of those jack inserts that was a micro-usb that had a mag-safe type of charging cable that went with it. It was cool but I always had to keep my own cable with me or id have to remove the little dongle thing and it would get lost.
Aye, me too and like you say it’s hard to not defeat the point of one if you’re unplugging the bloody thing all the time.
The one I’ve got thou did come with three cables of different lengths and for a while I used the short 0.5m at work since I could just jam it in small cargo pants pocket, medium length stored in locker and the longer 3m one at home. Still unplugged the adapter and is now in a drawer…somewhere.
Saying this, they do have the bonus (including that 3.5mm button thing i have above) of making the device more water resistant 👀
I will not buy a phone without wireless charging anymore. It is just too convenient and with proper OS support it can be configured to not drain your battery life too much.
Also I miss the smaller screen sizes. My HTC Legend was such a nice thing to hold in your hand with unique features. Smaller phones today usually lack a lot of features so they often aren’t an option.
I agree that it would be nice to have more people here. I occasionally use an alt account on another instance to crosspost my more normie-friendly stuff over to lemmynsfw, so that it has a link back to burggit on it. That’s probably best kept low-key though, so I don’t recommend a ton of people do it.
I’d love to see more people from the incest subs migrate over here, but I’m not sure how to advertise. I was pretty much just a lurker on those anyway, since I don’t have any stories to contribute. Maybe I should take up writing image captions. They’re kind of lame, but whatever. Though there isn’t really a good way to indicate that a reddit post originated on burggit without seeming really blatant about it.
/u/The_Entire_Circus has been linking to burggit as a way to mirror reddit posts more likely to get moderated/AEO’d, but i haven’t seen this convert into more sign-ups.
Maybe part of it could be the “ghost town” appearance the feed shows when logged out - NSFW content isn’t displayed to logged-out users, so scrolling out of the first page is enough to show week-old post dates.
Maybe part of it could be the “ghost town” appearance the feed shows when logged out - NSFW content isn’t displayed to logged-out users, so scrolling out of the first page is enough to show week-old post dates.
This is a real problem. Until lemmy implements an administrative setting to allow NSFW to be shown to those that aren’t logged in, NSFW instances are going to be at a severe disadvantage.
I compiled the nsfw patched version thanks to the lemmynsfw guys. Logged out users should see what’s in store. (inb4 they just fap and close the window lol.)
I still need to figure out how to label the version we’re on so that they’re displayed at the bottom. But I’ll figure that out at another time.
More telephoto cameras on midrange phones. It seems like they’re returning on some Chinese flagship killers. Would be great if Samsung and Google followed suit. Would be especially nice if we got periscope lenses.
I’d like to see LTPO on more phones, seems like it’s limited only to the highest end flagship now. Would be nice to save battery when the screen is not being touched.
Something I don’t like on a lot of Chinese midrangers - those rubbish 1/4" 8 MP ultrawides, don’t think it would cost much more to have a 12 MP ultrawide and the difference in quality would be big enough to justify using it. Samsung do it on the A2x and A3x too.
I doubt they’ll do it since it’s not on the regular Pixel 8. I think that’s a feature they’ll keep for the higher end. Pixel Xa series already has a faster processor and better cameras compared to their competition in North America, Australia and Western Europe.
I think the 8MP ultrawide is probably a deliberate attempt to ensure they don’t cannibalize their higher end phones. The poco x3 that was released 3 years ago had a 13mp ultrawide. Similarly priced phones released later downgraded the ultrawide cam.
They were using the telephoto as a point of differentiation too. I’m not sure why they even bother with that awful 8 MP ultrawide since it’s unusable. The images have no detail at all. Might as well just have one good camera instead of one useable and two unusable cameras.
I want a phone with vanilla Android, no OEM crapware, and a 4" screen.
The first 2 points I can do myself with ADB (I just hope it stays that way) but small screens are probably forever gone. The only option left is Unihertz, but the only phone I ever bought from them didn’t work that well.
I know it’s not the same thing but the new flip phones from Motorola and Samsung have 4-ish inch screens on the front. You can run all your apps on the front screen too.
It’s not hardware on Android I want. I want pure Android on these phones. All these overlays and additional OS bits from these companies highlights why they aren’t good software companies.
Back in the day Microsoft cracked down on overlays like HP Personal Page. Some bitched about it, but it was absolutely necessary. Google needs to do something similar.
I like the smaller userbase, it feels like a seedy yet still cool corner of the internet. For me, finding Loli/Shota content so easily was a major part of sticking here, as well as following the Touhou NSFW board since they were one of the few that abandoned Reddit after the protest.
Frankly, I should post more on here. However, this is just me speaking, but I often don’t feel like getting the format right for embedding multiple images in a post, to the point where I just don’t post. I’m spoiled by just uploading multiple pics on Reddit and that’s it.
Browser and e-mail notifications would help. I don’t know if Burggit has those features. Regardless, I really like and appreciate this internet space.
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