Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

It says in that article linked that “hickeys” are caused by kissing OR “sucking”

Is this like some vacuum cleaner play stuff? How am I supposed to know of niche stuff like that. I’ve seen a dwarf get involved with such things but it was part of a circus performance and they never spoke the H word

Ukko,
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@Arcana LMFAO yeah basically since a kiss is like a sucking thing you basically kiss/suck a spot on someone's neck or wherever hard for a lil bit and it will become a little bruise

Ukko,
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@Arcana you can try it on yourself, suck on your arm for a while

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Ukko Why would I do this?

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Arcana idk to satisfy curiosity

Arcana,
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@Ukko that’s like asking me to put a nail through my foot to satisfy curiosity, I’m not going to engage in self harm for zero reason

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Arcana it's not self harm no need to be angy about it, i just mentioned a way you can see it happen at home conditions

Arcana,
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@Ukko it is self harm, it involves the bursting of capillaries

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Arcana not necessarily, I think it's possible to just redden up the place for a couple minutes and it disappears right away, I'm not saying you should hold a vaccuum cleaner to your hand for 5 minutes

vivi,

@Arcana @Ukko it isn't the same thing. hickeys usually are hematomas so by that definition ig it's technically is damaging your body and in the same category as driving a nail through your foot. but the degree of risk and suffering both confer upon you are so massively different that evoking "self harm" would make the term meaningless, putting aside maybe some strict biological, "what is happening to the cells of my body" usage. driving a nail through your food probably would result in severe pain, bleeding, broken bones, risk of infection, the inability to walk for extended periods and maybe nerve damage. in comparison hickeys dont (necessarily) hurt and i dont even know if there is any serious long term risk or complication of a hickey. ik you could technically get a blood clot? but in the entirety of modern medicine and the probably billions of people who have given each other hickeys i have found 1 (one) case where this was documented to happen to a person. this seems like a non issue but do your own research ig

nik,

@Ukko @Arcana I used to do this as a kid and my parents would get mad at me for it lol

Ukko,
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@nik @Arcana same, that's why i know of it lmao

Arcana,
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@Ukko @nik Maybe this is the trend? It’s a thing that only those who did it to themselves know of?

Ukko,
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@Arcana @nik the sucking your own arm, yes, hickies, no, i learnt about them way later (and learnt how they're called waywayway later)

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Ukko @nik why do people do it? What leads to the thought process of “I am going to kiss and suck this patch of skin in order to break capillaries” and the other person is like “Yes, do that”

nik,

@Arcana @Ukko the neck is a very sensitive area and very mild pain on it can feel good to many people

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@nik @Arcana i'd say also often people don't realise and it's just a "whaddahell i kissed you so hard i bruised you"

Arcana,
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@Ukko @nik how do they not realize? No offence but if you’re kissing and sucking unawares that’s a bit dodgy

Ukko,
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@Arcana @nik people usually don't have the best judgment when they're sexually aroused

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@nik @Ukko so would flicking it with an elastic band produce the same results?

nik,

@Arcana @Ukko probably yea but it's more fun when someone does it with their body

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@nik @Ukko flicking with a finger then I suppose

Ultimately I do not like my neck touched at all, it’s extremely unpleasant, such an attempt on my neck would cause a very sharp and fighty reaction

Ukko,
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@Arcana @nik YES! It's like tickling lmao

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Ukko @nik isn’t that just a prank?

allison,

@Arcana @Ukko @nik no? there are folks who do it because they vibe or they like the feeling legit (I'm not one of those people)

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@allison @Arcana @nik and also discomfort done to you by someone else feels very different in a sexual context. Tho now that i think having my neck be kissed or whatever feels very different from being tickled both in and out of sex

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Arcana @nik thanks for the idea

allison,

@nik @Arcana @Ukko this is definitely true in my experience

phnt,
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@Arcana @Ukko @nik Teenage couples do it a lot. It isn't even that hard and can happen by accident. You can even think about it in the sense of marking territory, if you wanna go that route.

mischievoustomato,
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indeed, i've seen that for both guys and girls, "marking" the other is desirable

Arcana,
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@mischievoustomato @Ukko @phnt @nik seems rather sexist

phnt,
@phnt@fluffytail.org avatar

@Arcana @Ukko @nik @mischievoustomato It's weird, I don't like it. Almost nobody after teenage years does it and teenagers usually laugh at people who have them, in a typical teenage fashion.

Arcana,
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@phnt @Ukko @nik @mischievoustomato Yes that makes sense. All the people who have spoken of it here though are adults

nik,

@Arcana @phnt @Ukko @mischievoustomato us adults move to having hickies in places that are hidden with clothes when in public

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@nik @Ukko @phnt @mischievoustomato wait so strangers I pass in the street are likely covered in hidden bruises?

phnt,
@phnt@fluffytail.org avatar

@Arcana @Ukko @nik @mischievoustomato Don't think about it in this way. It's like if you think what underwear people have in the public.

mer,
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@Arcana for all you know I may be wearing shibari under the denil and flannel
@Ukko @phnt @nik @mischievoustomato

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

i dont agree

scathach,
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@Arcana @Ukko @nik The very mild pain on the neck feels really good, also a lot of people like it when their partner leaves marks on them

adiz,

@scathach Dudes out here really acting liking they don't want they neck sucked and bitten on. @Arcana @Ukko @nik

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@adiz @scathach @Ukko @nik of course not, not only doesn’t it remind me of a very unpleasant thing, but it just makes little logical sense. I don’t see the appeal

adiz,

@Arcana The appeal is that it's hot and feels good. @scathach @Ukko @nik

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@adiz @scathach @Ukko @nik why is it “hot” exactly? It legit just seems like it’s damaging capillaries

I don’t understand how that’s supposed to feel good

adiz,

@Arcana UwU maybe I should suck on your neck and show you. >;3 @scathach @Ukko @nik

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@adiz @scathach @Ukko @nik please do not mention such things to me again, this is an actual warning, I’m in a relationship and I will block you for this

jihadjimmy,
@jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe avatar

@Arcana
@Ukko @nik @adiz @scathach

"Plis di nit mintion sich things ti mi igain"

Bitch.

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@jihadjimmy @Ukko @nik @adiz @scathach what language is that

jihadjimmy,
@jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe avatar

@Arcana
@Ukko @nik @adiz @scathach

None, I'm just making fun of your response.

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@jihadjimmy @Ukko @nik @adiz @scathach alright, have fun

nyoom,
@nyoom@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Arcana @adiz @Ukko @nik @scathach I dont think its really that common, its one of the things that supposedly everyone does but doesnt actually, like getting super wasted at parties

nik,

@nyoom @Arcana @adiz @Ukko @scathach but this is the first time I've met someone who doesn't know of the concept lol

Arcana,
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nyoom,
@nyoom@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Arcana @nik @Ukko @adiz @scathach its something people just know ig. part of the vast amount of background knowledge that I have no idea where or how I learned

vriska,
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@Arcana lmao no hickies are very normal and vanilla

vriska,
@vriska@lizards.live avatar

@Arcana not that I would know or anything I'm a good Catholic girl

Arcana,
@Arcana@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@vriska Why haven’t I heard of them, are they not common in the UK perhaps?

Ukko,
@Ukko@akko.disqordia.space avatar

@Arcana @vriska love bite? Hickey seems to be originally american english

Arcana,
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@Ukko @vriska don’t recognize the term

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