PurpCat,
@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co avatar

it would be lulzy as shit if big tech companies solved the furry artist on e621 problem and blocked this behavior

jeff,

@PurpCat can i get a tl;dr of what that problem is?

PurpCat,
@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co avatar

@jeff So basically either e621 admins do dumb shit again or furry artists have a normal one and put themselves on the e621 DNP list for some reason or another.

The end result is a long ass DNP list that is only missing an embedded autoplay of the Star Wars theme. https://e621.net/help/avoid_posting

jeff,

@PurpCat i still dont understand, is this a bad neighborhood on e621 plus network effect which causes guilt by association or something?

PurpCat,
@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co avatar

@jeff no e621 is known to be a rotting site because so many artists had meltdowns online or wanted to protest e621 jannies by shooting themselves in the foot so a lot of art you could find 5-10 years ago is gone or hosted on obscure sites or buried in some furries HDD under some image hash filename.

jeff,

@PurpCat what prevents a new one from existing?

PurpCat,
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@jeff Problem 1 is that you need to scrape an assload of data. Problem 2 is you need to have competent IT skills to do more than just run Windows Update or link computers to AD or hit reset on the servers (which is the most skills most furries have if they're wagies). Problem 3 is you need to keep the damn site open and deal with militant furries leading gayops (this is why the original e621 incarnation which didn't give two shits and a fuck about "artists rights" shut down, it was too high profile and some "drawings have rights" gayopper was making threats and he pussied out and would get a sex change years later).

There's a tor booru but it's missing a lot. There was furry.booru.org which was an e621 rip but it went down because GEE GOLLY WILLICKERS FURRIES CANT KEEP SITES UP. There's the FA archive too and it's popular because furries keep deleting.

Coyote,
@Coyote@social.singing.dog avatar

@PurpCat @jeff

There's a tor booru but it's missing a lot.

The database dump e621 publishes still has metadata for deleted files, so you could automate importing of files with an FA url via the FA archive (I was experimenting with try to convert pools to comics, but I'm hesitant to dump all of them on the site at once).

That'd still leave all the stuff from when 2 year old commercial stuff was still allowed. A lot of that stuff is going to stay missing unless someone who was ripping the site in the early 2010s still has everything and is willing to share. You could find a lot of stuff on u18chan digging manually, but that site is in a constant state of disrepair that I'm surprised the owner even bothers to pay for hosting.

PurpCat,
@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co avatar

@Coyote @jeff furries are literally worse at archiving porn than japanese nerds are at archiving old software it's unreal

PurpCat,
@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co avatar

@Coyote @jeff fuck when I release a certain piece of undumped JP software I want to put a jab at the furry fandom failing hard at this LMAO

Nudhul,

@PurpCat @jeff if retards dont want their art hosted elsewhere they shouldnt post it publically. DNP should not exist

mint,
@mint@ryona.agency avatar

@PurpCat >big tech companies solved the furry artist on e621 problem
What do you think stable diffusion is about?

PurpCat,
@PurpCat@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mint Oh I agree, but in this case I'm referring to the internet artist "delete everything" behavior.

But I don't disagree. One of my friends made a good joke that AI is basically "draw art in the style of XYZ before he went crazy".

mint,
@mint@ryona.agency avatar

@PurpCat >I'm referring to the internet artist "delete everything" behavior
Kemono partially fills the niche.

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