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faxeneda, in Do you guys prefer the Burggit Sharkey instance or this Lemmy instance?
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I had never used Sharkey before today. I just created an account on the Sharkey instance and I don’t really know how to use it. If I’m correct in assuming Sharkey is similar to Mastodon, I don’t know if I’d use it much. I know I don’t post or comment very often on Burggit but I’ve always felt that the “Reddit” style social media sites like Lemmy work better for discussions and it seems like people are more likely to not just see but also respond to your posts.

SecretSam, in Do you guys prefer the Burggit Sharkey instance or this Lemmy instance?
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I just signed up there and I don’t really see myself visiting the Sharkey instance nearly as much. At the end of the day I’m just here to see loli pics that people share, and the communities here allow me to separate that from everything I don’t care about. I don’t know why I’d ever use the Sharkey instance rather than just use Aethy or Baraag, especially since I’m already following users I want to see stuff from on Aethy.

nofrefan, in Do you guys prefer the Burggit Sharkey instance or this Lemmy instance?

Honestly, I never understood what the sharkey instance was even supposed to be. It looked extremely counter-intuitive to me. No idea what I was even supposed to do there,

Burger, (edited ) in Do you guys prefer the Burggit Sharkey instance or this Lemmy instance?
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I suppose I should post the Sharkey instance URL while I’m at it: dill.burggit.moe

Disabled, in reccomendations for more loli shota safe online communities ??
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There’s shota.house which is a loli/shota safe twitter-like platform that @burger@burggit.moe and myself run. Here’s an invite link: shota.house/…/EdCGgm8zBpFuMFKpVrCvOZOP5VKvEwDCGLy… just sign up and log in. (Good for multiple people, if other Burggit users want to join)

There’s also baraag.net which is a very large art posting instance (also twitter-like) for loli/shota enjoyers.

There’s gelbooru.com which is an art posting gallery where you can find various anime images, including loli/shota (but has to be enabled in settings)

there’s allthefallen.moe which runs various loli/shota focused sites/services.

that’s basically all I know of at the moment.

diff, in Do you actually care about a food being seasoned with black pepper?
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Since it doesn’t have much “character” of its own, it goes well with many kinds of foods while also being generally agreeable to most people’s tastes. That’s probably the main reason it’s so popular.

I don’t care for it either, but it’s fine if you also add salt

Relish,
diff,
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G…Glesgorv? is that you?

blue_nat, in Do you actually care about a food being seasoned with black pepper?
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Depends on what you’re making. There’s nothing worse than under seasoned dishes. Freshly ground black pepper is a versatile ingredient that compliments many other flavors, but it’s hardly a requirement for everything. I keep two spice mills on the counter, one with black peppercorns, and the other with white, because there’s many things that can benefit from one or the other.

JunkMonkey69, in Do you actually care about a food being seasoned with black pepper?

Fresh cracked makes all the difference. Excellent finish to most dishes. The crap sitting ground up in a container for years? Yeah, that is bland as shit and shouldn’t be a staple everywhere. I bring my own mini pepper mill most places. Pretentious? Maybe, but I don’t really care. I just enjoy the enhanced flavor.

Relish,

Oh, I might have to try that. I didn’t think about how stale mine might be.

RA2lover,
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Salt can disguise that. Or MSG. who cares.

Burger, in Do you actually care about a food being seasoned with black pepper?
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If it’s like the only spice, then it’s better than nothing, IMO.

Relish,

it looks pretty cool at least

Disabled, in How to use Telegram without a phone number?
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You could probably use a service like Crypton.sh to get a phone number to attach to Telegram, while not linking it to your actual identity. I’ve used this method for various sites which require phone verification.

soulnull, in How did you hear about Burggit?
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My reasons for picking this as my home aren’t because it’s loli friendly, but also because it is. I’m tired of people getting mad about others opinions and thoughts. I don’t particularly like certain content advertised as welcome here, but that’s the point. I’ll never call for a ban on people having their own places to share their thoughts. I don’t have to like what you say to defend your right to say it, and this instance seems to share this stance. Standing up for unpopular speech is how I found this place. People need to chill and let others exist to share their ideas, good and bad, so people can make up their own damn minds on who they are or aren’t.

Don’t be a dick goes so many ways, including the stripping away of voices from those that others may not like. So here I am. Happy to be here.

Disabled,
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Agreed 100% it should not be the job of a corporation, platform or otherwise to decide what you can/cannot see. To decide what you can’/cannot say. To decide who you can/cannot be or who you can/cannot associate with. People should be allowed to think for themselves, make their own decisions about what and who they want to associate with and participate in.

Very glad you found us and we’re happy to have you here. Hope you enjoy your stay!

soulnull,
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Exactly. If I dislike something or someone, there’s this magical little button I can push to make it disappear from my screen. I don’t need someone else to push that button for me, so thank you thank you thank you for maintaining sanity in an insane world.

RA2lover, (edited ) in [Discussion] I don't think NSFW posts should be shown publicly/to logged out users
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Currently burggit is using lemmynsfw.com’s lemmy-ui changes. Besides displaying NSFW posts to logged out users, they also auto-expand content and unblur nsfw thumbnails.
There’s no major problem with that for lemmynsfw (and they tell in the sidebar you can block communities you don’t like), but i can see why this would irk some people on this instance.

I think the latter 2 changes can be reversed at a stylesheet level, which AFAIK burggit already did previously when spacing items. would non-autoexpanded content and blurred NSFW thumbnails be a good compromise?

The_Entire_Circus,

I’m not sure if the concerns of the “ghost town” in the original post can be resolved by having non-registered viewers see a bunch of NSFW posts. If one believes the 1% rule that says 99% of people generally lurk and it is a small minority of 1% (and maybe 9% who contribute once in a while) that actually create content, it feels like growth and discussion comes from hitting a critical mass of users (which this community might not have hit yet, but may hit in time), rather than “look, here are more NSFW posts, but you can’t comment until you register an account with us.”

Though it’s not quite the same as hiding away NSFW posts behind registration (since a flood of “wtf” NSFW posts relative to the viewer could flood the front page), I guess that can also be a function of post content as well (SFW vs. NSFW and so on.) With that, I would support your suggestion on the UI changes, since it would give them the same view as registered users (albeit an expanded view of non-blocked communities). At the very least, having the “wtf” content be blurred and not auto-expanded might help avoid insta-reject reactions (or delay it for a few seconds until they click on one out of curiosity and go AHHH MY EYES WHAT IS THIS) 😅

SomeRandomAccount,
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I’m not sure if the concerns of the “ghost town” in the original post can be resolved by having non-registered viewers see a bunch of NSFW posts.

99% of the posts here are NSFW (I wouldn’t be surprised if that wasn’t an exaggeration), so someone visiting the site for the first time would only see the other 1%. Given how few of SFW posts there are and how they don’t tend to have much interaction beyond the occasional comment or two, it wouldn’t be unreasonable for them to assume that this place is pretty much dead. By showing NSFW posts by default, new users would get an accurate measure of how active it is here and would be more likely to stay (and (hopefully) less of them would be scared off by extreme content than would leave due to lack of content).

Honestly, I’m not sure why the NSFW Lemmy UI removes the blur and auto-expands posts in the first place (though the option to automatically do this is appreciated). Reverting these is a no-brainer IMO, and it would bring the experience in line with vanilla Lemmy after creating an account (and enabling NSFW posts).

The_Entire_Circus,

By showing NSFW posts by default, new users would get an accurate measure of how active it is here and would be more likely to stay (and (hopefully) less of them would be scared off by extreme content than would leave due to lack of content).

Yea, that’s ultimately the question. I think reinstating blurs and removing auto-expansion (for the visitor view) would help mitigate the former somewhat… it remains to be seen whether that’s possible, even if it seems to be broadly supported here.

NSFW Lemmy UI removes the blur and auto-expands posts in the first place

From a convenience/UX perspective, it makes sense. It brings the experience closer to Instagram/Tik Tok “card” style posts where the content is displayed without needing an extra click. That said, I think their content there is relatively tame compared to some of the content hosted here, so it might work for them but not so well for us.

Reverting these is a no-brainer IMO, and it would bring the experience in line with vanilla Lemmy after creating an account (and enabling NSFW posts).

I agree - it would also be in line with Reddit’s approach of “Yea you can see NSFW as a lurking visitor, but the thumbnail is hidden and you get a red warning that it’s NSFW”. I think it’s a fair way to go about it.

blue_nat,
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I think this would be a fair change and compromise.

Because logged in users can toggle both the NSFW Blur and the Auto Expand in their account settings it doesn’t seem as if it would significantly negatively effect current account holder users.

I suppose if there’s a userbase that utilizes the site without an account or without being logged in on a regular basis this could hamper their experience, but I guess that’s where the big question is. Would such a change effect the conversion of non-account holding users to account holding users on a positive, negative, or neutral basis?

I’m no marketing or analytics person so I wouldn’t know what sort of data would be needed to determine that, and if it’s even available in the current site version, but either way I don’t think there’s any way to tell other than making the change and seeing what happens.

rinkan, in [Discussion] I don't think NSFW posts should be shown publicly/to logged out users

Nah, I’m of the opposite perspective on this. Keeping NSFW stuff login-gated is a slow death sentence for the site. The change to show it to everyone seems (to me) to have resulted in a slight increase in new people posting, and probably puts us above replacement level instead of below. I don’t have actual numbers to back that up though.

The only change I would make is to the initial content warning popup for logged-out users. Make it more specific to burggit, and notify people that by creating an account they can filter the more extreme content. A booru-style default filter that you can change or disable without logging in would be nice to have, but would be a much more difficult change to make. Even then, I’d only have it disable auto-expand for posts from the more extreme communities, rather than hiding them entirely.

The_Entire_Circus,

Admittedly I haven’t been on for the past two weeks when it was implemented, so it’s hard to tell whether there’s been more posts from new users resulting from the changes.* Maybe those are stats that the admins might have access to, or not at all.

*If there are, I’m curious how they’ve discovered this place.

Agreed, the booru-style filter for default view would be good if it exists in the future. I think RA2lover’s suggestions of non-auto expand and blurred thumbnails for NSFW posts would line up with your “disable auto-expand posts from more extreme communities.” Might be hard to get agreement or to draw a line in the sand and say “This is extreme and this isn’t”, so if it comes to that I’m in favor of erring on the side of caution and non-auto expanding + blurring all NSFW posts for the visitor view (since these posts aren’t gated behind logins). And tailoring the CW popup is a great idea as well, though I’m not sure whether mention should be made of the more extreme content at the pop-up or left for them to discover upon actually hitting the site.

Burger,
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I tried changing that popup warning at the reverse proxy level, but it just wouldn’t take. This would require me to fork the software and add changes on my end and have them publicly available on a git repository so as to remain in line with the AGPL. I’m not really good with git so I don’t know much about how to have have changes from upstream without destroying or conflicting with my own changes as the upstream software is updated.

I’d like to see the lurkers come out to say their piece on this. Don’t be shy guys, we’d like to know how you view this change. I lean more towards keeping the NSFW changes because otherwise this site looks deader than a doornail since non-NSFW posts are so few and far in between.

Burger,
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It might be better to resume discussion in the pinned thread: burggit.moe/post/2639089

The_Entire_Circus,

Thanks for the pinned thread, hopefully there’ll be some engagement from lurkers as you’ve mentioned.

RA2lover, in How can we get more users?
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I would bet with the way modern Google works, nobody is coming here from a google search either lol.

burggit.moe/robots.txt pre-empted that out.

/u/The_Entire_Circus has been linking to burggit as a way to mirror reddit posts more likely to get moderated/AEO’d, but i haven’t seen this convert into more sign-ups.

Maybe part of it could be the “ghost town” appearance the feed shows when logged out - NSFW content isn’t displayed to logged-out users, so scrolling out of the first page is enough to show week-old post dates.

rinkan, (edited )

Maybe part of it could be the “ghost town” appearance the feed shows when logged out - NSFW content isn’t displayed to logged-out users, so scrolling out of the first page is enough to show week-old post dates.

This is a real problem. Until lemmy implements an administrative setting to allow NSFW to be shown to those that aren’t logged in, NSFW instances are going to be at a severe disadvantage.

Burger,
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I compiled the nsfw patched version thanks to the lemmynsfw guys. Logged out users should see what’s in store. (inb4 they just fap and close the window lol.)

I still need to figure out how to label the version we’re on so that they’re displayed at the bottom. But I’ll figure that out at another time.

github.com/lemmynsfw/lemmy-ui

github.com/lemmynsfw/lemmy

rinkan,

Beautiful! ablobcathearteyes

The_Entire_Circus,

It’s a bit late, but I don’t think showing NSFW posts publicly is a good idea. I’ve started a discussion thread on this.

Sat, in How to use Telegram without a phone number?

You can just make your number private and prevent people from being able to find you by it. If your issue is the account creation itself then at best get a prepaid number or use one from a 4g modem.

rinkan,

You can just make your number private and prevent people from being able to find you by it.

Telegram themselves would still know who you are, and would be able to sell that information, or it could be stolen in a data breach. For some people that’s not such a big deal, but it’s not really an acceptable option for those that really care about privacy.

Sat,

I mean that’s fair. Though if you use your phone they will probably store its hardware information as well. Then you will probably not get around having to use a burner number.

rinkan,

Yeah, letting your device talk directly to them would make the whole thing moot, of course. blobcatlaugh2

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