RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

I am attempting to set up on popOS and not a single step I have done has gone smoothly. I think I would rather deal with codec issues and some reduced battery. This is not workable.

binkle,
@binkle@clubcyberia.co avatar

@RustyCrab what happened

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

did you have issues with fedora?

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mischievoustomato @binkle my only issue with fedora was poor battery life and very annoying codecs. I saw some stuff that made popOS look attractive but it's an enormous step backward.

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

> poor battery life
idk what laptop you had, but i just install powertop and then do enable its systemd service, and my battery life is fine.
> very annoying codecs
did the guides to install codecs not work?

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mischievoustomato @binkle no they did but I've had to stop what I'm doing 20 times now and install some new obscure codec that I have never once even thought of before.

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

that's very odd, ngl. You're supposed to just install all the gstreamer and that's it... What formats you had issues with?

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mischievoustomato @binkle I don't remember all the names. Just every week or so I would hit some playback issue and had to start a research project to find what obscure package it is this time

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

that's very weird. If you decide to try fedora again, tell me about the formats because i had never had those issues. I am on arch right now but I have fedora knowledge still

RustyCrab,
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@mischievoustomato @binkle if you use things like flatpacks of vlc or smplayer the problem is largely irrelevant. My specific usecase was streaming torrents through jellyfin. Browsers rely on your system codecs apparently and the streams came in a wide variety of formats. At least once per week a video simply would not play in the browser and I had to control shift j to see a "codec unsupported" message.

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

Hm, weird. I don't use flatpaks, just used mpv, all thru dnf. I assumed that Brave bundled its own codecs. I know vivaldi does that, and so should Chrome. I've only hit an "unsupported codec" message and that was on firefox, but it was a firefox issue, not a linux issue (it worked fine on google chrome)

RustyCrab,
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@mischievoustomato @binkle I use Firefox for jellyfin and other local access servers to just keep them segregated from my main browser. The IPs direct to 10.0.0.x and it's not a wonderful idea to accidentally pull those up while you're connected to random public wifis (yes I know profiles are a thing, maybe I should try that instead)

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

hmmm. I wonder then if you hit the same issue i hit. A h265? mp4 wouldn't upload at all to instagram on firefox bc muh unsupported codec (and firefox DOES not support it at all, look at about:support), and it fails SILENTLY. So I just used Google Chrome for those things.
Hell, even on arch it gives me "unsupported codec" at times but its also another retarded thing. I can't wait for mesa and google to do the things they need to do to support vaapi on linux and wayland so i can move to google chrome

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mischievoustomato @binkle like I try disabling ipv6 and it doesn't work like it has absolutely everywhere else. I sort of find out why but that stuff is too dangerous to employ workarounds. I tried enabling their tiling window manager and it runs like shit. I tried installing some custom extensions for gnome and... well it's not working but I haven't looked too deep into why yet.

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@binkle @mischievoustomato Wayland runs like shit too. Flickering all over the place.

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

poopOS

binkle,
@binkle@clubcyberia.co avatar

@RustyCrab @mischievoustomato very bizarre - popos had none of these issues for me when debian/arch/fedora all failed me

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

I LOVE COMPUTERS

binkle,
@binkle@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mischievoustomato @RustyCrab convinced that linux distros carve up pc models like ISPs carve up service territory

tyler,
@tyler@nicecrew.digital avatar

Damn you're probably right

Dells run best on Ubuntu

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@binkle @mischievoustomato Ubuntu and Fedora deciding who gets working sound on Asus

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@binkle @mischievoustomato the straw that broke the camels back for me just now is that it has no straightforward support for wireguard. It works AMAZINGLY on fedora and has full integration.

I researched it on here and while technically possible to make it work 1) I do not want to take that risk with something unsupported for something mission critical 2) "oh just install this this this this this this and run a script on startup" nigga I don't want to have to open my hood and wind a crank every time I start my car

skylar,
@skylar@wolfgirl.bar avatar

@RustyCrab @binkle @mischievoustomato you're a very strange crab
the whole thing with like any vpn software is it runs scripts to set itself up
maybe some hide them from the user
but they're there, hiding in /etc/, setting up routes and assigning IP addresses to interfaces

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@skylar @binkle @mischievoustomato yes I know how it works underneath. I'm sick of screwing with the god damn command line whenever I want to interface with my VPN. I've been doing it for years and fedora has finally offered ACTUALLY WORKING RELIEF. I don't want to go back.

skylar,
@skylar@wolfgirl.bar avatar

@RustyCrab @binkle @mischievoustomato didn't you do that to yourself by constantly reinstalling your operating system?

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@skylar @binkle @mischievoustomato distro hopping is a rite of passage for becoming a man

skylar,
@skylar@wolfgirl.bar avatar

@RustyCrab @binkle @mischievoustomato can't relate, i do not have the autism

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

i do have the autism and it hurts. I'm on arch linux because i can more or less balance what I want and need in regards to lunix

skylar,
@skylar@wolfgirl.bar avatar

@mischievoustomato @RustyCrab @binkle me after picking a distro once and leaving it there for the rest of eternity cause i don't feel like messing with it again

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

im autistic over not wanting to use flatpak, and also not wanting to package everything myself. Arch lets me do that nicely

skylar,
@skylar@wolfgirl.bar avatar

@mischievoustomato @RustyCrab @binkle i don't know what a flatpak is and i don't care enough to learn
is it related to a flapjack?

PunishedD,
@PunishedD@clubcyberia.co avatar

@binkle @RustyCrab @mischievoustomato Same here. The only issue PopOS ever gave me was running slow on full-disk encryption (not surprising), and once it refused to update OS files (the system itself and updating apps worked fine). Completely smooth sailing otherwise.

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar
RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mischievoustomato @PunishedD @binkle I never had any issue with btrfs/fedora encryption. It's so fast it's actually shocking.

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

i think fedora enables those settings i described

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

actually, it doesnt seem like so (run cryptsetup status <encrypted partition> to see the enabled flags. Only "discard" is set up by default)
You still will have an overhead than you can mitigate disabling the workqueues https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/rzvhyg/default_luks_encryption_settings_on_fedora_can_be/

RustyCrab,
@RustyCrab@clubcyberia.co avatar

@mischievoustomato @PunishedD @binkle it's stupidly retardedly fast. Faster than I could possibly need. I don't want to touch anything.

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar

alrighty, i just did my duty of telling you

mischievoustomato,
@mischievoustomato@rebased.taihou.website avatar
paris,
@paris@cannibal.cafe avatar

@RustyCrab @binkle @mischievoustomato is this the Linux complainer thread I fucking hate Dell and their stupid proprietary goodix fingerprint sensor that runs off dark magic. and the fucking realtek sd card reader that literally does not have a driver that exists

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