@scathach I’ve never heard of that before, I don’t think it exists in the UK, I’ve never heard of anything like that
The computer stuff is of negligible importance. The new ones will tend to be far more reliable and breakdown less. I like classic cars and vehicles, but for daily driving the newer one is more reliable
All cars get traced as it is through cameras and registrations. Ultimately none of that matters for just daily driving stuff. I’d get a classic one as well but there’s no reason to limit yourself imo
@Moon@scathach The police can do a lot of things, part of avoiding that is through inconspicuousness and blending in
All phones are traceable too, and I’m not saying people should accept it but there’s a way to combat that and not sticking out like a sore thumb is part of that
For just a nice reliable drive about with some luxury it’s fine
No reason people can’t have multiple vehicles
Also as said, I can’t find anything related to this OnStar thing and Land Rovers, I’ve never heard of it in general.
@Moon@scathach Let’s not forget that top tier cartel bosses and white collar crime people use modern luxury cars with no bother
I do think people look in the completely wrong places when it comes to this stuff
The vast majority of people I’ve seen who complain about things like inbuilt GPS and companies gathering basic ad data have posted extremely incriminating things on here
@Moon@scathach Oh I understand, and it’s important to be mindful. I operate under the understanding that things aren’t secure within 50 feet of any computer at all and act accordingly
Like with the onstar thing, doesn’t bother me because if they want to track you, you’re already being tracked
@nyoom@Arcana@scathach I mean, there's saying you did something, and then there's feeding your 24/7 location data of when you did it directly to the police
@Moon@Arcana@scathach if the feds dont care about you openly posting about having committed crimes they arent monitoring you to the degree that would matter
and even if they were, theres no reason you cant have an old car and a modern one if you can afford to have both
@meso@nyoom@Moon@scathach Fedi users be like: “I don’t care if the police know I’m manufacturing fentanyl, as long as the Google Adsense I block isn’t slightly more relevant”
@Arcana@nyoom@Moon@scathach this is true, its one thing to openly share on fedi im manufacturing fentanyl in my basement its another for the feds to put spyware on my phone, car, fridge, etc
@Ukko@Arcana@nyoom@Moon@scathach that's not the problem, the problem is when they commit mass surveillance of everyone, build profiles on them. innocent people, just because they might have something to hide. with a warrant? sure, it's their fault for not being careful. but monitoring everything and everyone is absolutely wrong and indefensible, trying to cope by saying its not a big deal is pretty retarded
@meso@Arcana@Ukko@Moon@scathach its not that dragnet surveillance is good, its that you shouldnt let worries about it get in the way of your life
do you have a phone? do you have proprietary firmware blobs in your chips? have you ever played a videogame? tech autism about such things is just dumb ultimately
@meso@Ukko@nyoom@Moon@scathach the technology that started this thread was OnStar, which was seemingly sold as a feature. People chose that as something they wanted. The vast majority of people buy tracking as a product.
@Arcana@Ukko@nyoom@scathach@meso onstar is built into several vehicles but you get no benefit from it unless you pay a monthly subscription fee. but it can still be activated remotely for spying
@Arcana@Ukko@meso@nyoom@scathach I just wanted to tell you that it does this because it's an order of magnitude more privacy-violating than other technology so someone might want to know. I know more about this stuff than onyone else in this thread and I choose to not let it rule my life. I carry a cell phone.
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