we need IRC with a matrix or discord-like user interface that supports (and hosts) user uploads. the-lounge is fine but it's not quite there. matrix is so fucking bad
@matty no like this thelounge.chat/ but with a closer-to-discord/matrix UX. this hosts user uploads but what I'm thinking is making something similar but that has ephemeral file hosting. a user uploading it can store it until a user sees it, until xhours or xdays up to a maximum of 30. we could set it up to use oauth to callback to poa.st or whatever instance for user logins, profile info etc. built on irc since irc is inherently E2EE (even though its not actually, nobody can view your messages). I think thats the way we need to focus. so i will do this
@matty its possible, ZNC and similar have been doing it for 20+ years. another idea could be federation based on irc server linking. so self hosting would work, they would connect to one another.
irc uses next to no resource. servers used to run with 8-10k users active each server on like 266mhz servers
Interesting. I know the Synapse developers are working on the new thing, Element X, so I'm interested to see how that goes. Honestly I don't know the difference between all this shit. Synapse has its problems no doubt, I just hope it gets better with time.
@matty think of it this way. there is no database outside of user registrations which would be handled by the instance. no storage on the server aside from user uploads which are ephemeral. needs next to no cpu or ram. a single thread vps with 512mb ram would be fine for 100s of users.
also element-x is fucking gay. it's fundamentally broken. you're putting lipstick on a pig. matrix is not a good protocol at all
If that's the case though, if a user deletes their local storage (assuming each user hosts their own data), there's no way to get that back. It may be less accessible for users who aren't as savvy. I dunno. Either way, I wish you the best of luck with this.
@matty irc has always been that way. you can log chats if you want, but once you delete it it's gone. ephemeral and decentralized via self hosted servers linking is a much smarter approach than entrusting some admin to not fuck up which if we look at the track records of a lot of self hosting in fedi and other places happens a lot
@graf@matty irc is difficult since all communication is in-band, I have thought before though that a client could connect you to two channels and the second channel would be just a metadata channel for communicating things like reacts etc.
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