every time I try to use GNOME I find something that makes me VIOLENTLY mad
I turns out you can't eyeball setting the brightness or volume at 50% since those controls doesn't work on increments of 5 in GNOME, so when the sliders seems to be at the middle, it's on 48%, 54%, or 52%, but never actually at 50%
@adiz@dirb same, I don't overly hate it but I avoid it. I wish KDE could be as clean and less buggy as it. I don't think there's a DE on Linux without issues.
@koimoa I like what Gnome is trying to do with a hybrid DE that caters to both traditional desktops, tablets, mobile devices, and 2-in-1 machines. But, I don't like how they continue to nerf and infantalize things, stripping out options and functionality and customization and making it like a "Fisher Price" DE. @dirb
@mischievoustomato Don't they have more developers than KDE? Gnome is kinda the "default" DE on most Linux distros, anyway. There are a lot of very minor things Gnome could implement which would dramatically increase quality of life and usability. Whatever, I use vanilla KDE Plasma these days.
I dont know. There was a scare some years ago as they were gonna remove some network settings due to no one stepping up to maintain some stuff, so i assume they dont have much devs
@adiz@dirb I don't feel like hybrid apps work, it's been tried for a while and it just feels clunky. People who don't know how to use a desktop aren't gonna be less confused now that's it in nanny mode. I will say that as much shit as I give Macs, the fact their app ui can be simple and all of the advanced stuff can be found on the global header makes it a lot easier. On gnome, you don't even have that option
@koimoa I just liked how Gnome worked well with my 2-in-1 laptop. I ended up going back to KDE because I couldn't deal with how nerfed Gnome was. But, Gnome was definitely touch-screen friendly, and I appreciated that. @dirb
I like what Gnome is trying to do with a hybrid DE
Doesn't KDE also do that, though? They've implemented numerous touchscreen-focused features, such as edge gestures, multiple desktops, and generally features that are also in GNOME. In fact, I prefer using it compared to GNOME on my tablet to the point where it's actually usable.
@radmin They have, and I do use KDE now on my 2-in-1. I just miss how Gnome includes/includes an on-screen virtual keyboard which is entirely lacking from KDE and third-party options like Maliit just don't work. The Gnome application launcher is also more friendly to touch-screen. @koimoa@dirb
I wish that kde and gnome could settle on a design that would help them look similar, so that way they don't look fucking terrible on another DE. KDE does a decent job of this but GNOME doesn't even try to make Qt apps look decent.
@koimoa Yeah, I understand that Qt is a lot easier to work with cross-DE. I really wish there was a Haiku-styled DE for Linux. I love Haiku so much. @radmin@dirb
@adiz@radmin@dirb Nah, I just wish that Haiku becomes a lot more viable, it has its own things going on, decent package management, buttons that look like buttons, deskbar and it's own kernel, feels unified, window tabs are useful, etc etc
I can gush all day about what I love about Haiku, but it's not quite there yet and definitely lacking drivers atm
@koimoa@adiz@dirb@radmin >GNOME doesn't even try to make Qt apps look decent.
Last time I tried Gnome, they didn't even bother enabling hidpi on Qt apps that fully supported it. At some point I have to assume they knowingly sabotage things to encourage users to switch to Gnome alternatives.
@adiz@koimoa@dirb Also, I don't know if I'll ever stop whining about GNOME not letting you scale the wallpaper to fit. It's just baffling to see that they didn't implement what everyone else has since the 1990s and 2000s.
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