icedquinn,
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not sure how people tolerate these AI girlfriend things. LLMs tend to be dumb little shits :neocat_thonk:

is there some super cool thing i missed? i saw people doing something with vector databases for "memory"

coolboymew,
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@icedquinn How are people getting AI girlfriends? Even with silly tavern it's just obviously fake but the stories are nice sometimes

You just have to outright be an idiot to believe it

icedquinn,
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@coolboymew i don't know but i guess replika has replacements.

icedquinn,
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@coolboymew cakecnn admitted they did a bit of a trick. they analyzed the emojis in messages and used emoji emission in the model to instruct the puppet to change to some emote state.

so basically just do the same that everyone else does: record request/responses in a big decision tree, pretend to be an AI for a while by just pulling the neural fingerprint closest response, and then use the data you harvest to fine tune mixtral 7/8B :ablobcatpopcorn:

thegreatape,
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@icedquinn I think it's desperate people willing to settle for less. I remember the fiasco around people falling in love with that Replika thing and that was nowhere near as good as stuff today. And stuff we have today probably has a long way to go until it's actually going to be able to handle relationships.

icedquinn,
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@thegreatape replika had some limited memory system originally. if i recall. and would respond to nsfw requests. before the lobotomy.

they eventually released some of the code for that and it was just a stack of RNNs all along (i think the code is called CakeRNN.)

freon,

@icedquinn in any case we are on a clear pathway towards human interaction becoming a privilege instead of a right and that's enough reason for me to want total YC genocide

icedquinn,
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@freon where on earth is human interaction a right?

TURBORETARD9000,

@icedquinn @freon I think the rule that governs solitary confinement

icedquinn,
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@TURBORETARD9000 @freon people are -very- quick to chirp that access to intimacy is not a right at all.

susie,
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@icedquinn @TURBORETARD9000 @freon Shit take, but anything requiring active participation from other human beings shouldn't be a right. Forcing other people to do so infringes on their personal freedom/rights. If someone is willing to do it by their own free will then it doesn't need to be a right to begin with (but not everyone finds someone willing to do that).

Capitalism of course has loopholes for the rich in this regard too.

However once the human element gets "solved" (robotics/cyborgs/real AIs maybe?) then I can see it becoming a basic human right (to have access to something that provides this service).

icedquinn,
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@susie @TURBORETARD9000 @freon the total freedom thing goes out the window once people are too dense for hunter-gatherers. then you end up having to do organized agrarian activities and by that point there is already an implicit "dance for the rich" going on.

there are some bits you can get around with duty/debt cycles. at one point (before the rockefellerization of medicine) they did see some amount of impoverished clients and it was seen as a public service similar to how lawyers have pro bono jobs.

problem with that is the civil service angle has reciprocal obligations and we did away with those with the end of feudalism, now the obligations are strictly organizing and extracting for the rich, with no longer any expectation of taking care of the poors.

icedquinn,
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@susie @TURBORETARD9000 @freon i mostly just get upset that having human intimacy at all is basically an impossible ask. everyone sends you in huge circles to go somewhere else, while the places left where you are supposed to specifically go to meet people, are basically cash grabs.

i don't really feel like an actual person, nor have i really at any point in my life. everything is transactional as fuck. and if i seek something that isn't that, there's mountains of excuses and fob-offs.

susie,
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@icedquinn @TURBORETARD9000 @freon I'm one of those voluntary loners who don't want to participate on that song and dance. I get it though. Humans are a commodity for all services, so it makes sense people are trying to benefit from their target demographic as best as they can. That is why for example Tinder did the great bait and switch from being a "good" and affordable alternative to expensive bars, only to get turned to a gacha game with fake profiles and whatnot (I don't use Tinder but AFAIK that is what happened).

I'm not old enough to remember what dating before the internet and mobile phones was like. However (again AFAIK) people paired up by being in close proximity for long periods of time. So workplaces, hobbies, small towns or just visiting the same social places on the regular. Not really speed-dating, Tinder or any other "quick meetups" sort of way.

Also women were "traded" as a commodity by being paired with men by social/monetary pressure and their families setting up dates/bringing up good candidates for grandchildren. I don't think that happens at all anymore, but it was one way to "make connections" by involving family networks.

Sadly hobbies and social gathering places are pretty expensive these days. One thing people still claim to be a thing for singles to mingle are pair dancing events/festivals. Might be just a Finnish thing though. We call them "latotanssit" which means literally translated "barn dances".

icedquinn,
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@susie @TURBORETARD9000 @freon tinder is a cognitohazard and an overall detriment to mankind.

i use[d] a place a little more serious than tinder for a bit, and 100% of the women i've met there since opening my account are idiot sex workers.

the men sometimes respond, chat for 2-10 lines and ghost, but they don't try to shove an invoice demand in my face after saying hi.

coolboymew,
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@susie @TURBORETARD9000 @icedquinn @freon one of the big problem of the Internet currently is that absolutely everything is becoming a "meta", nothing is sacred anymore, everything is good to attempt to make as much money as possible

icedquinn,
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@coolboymew @TURBORETARD9000 @susie @freon unrestricted warfare :comfyshrug:

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