BigTLarrity,
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After learning absolutely nothing by watching Sega bomb with the 32X and Sega-CD, Sony decides to attempt a pro-gamer move

Marshall1Banana,
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@BigTLarrity I can't wait for ps5 pro so more devs can make unoptimized games

Just imagine burning EVEN MORE wattage for 1080p 30fps on dragon dogma 2

Marshall1Banana,
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@BigTLarrity 15fps on rendering individual high-def teeth on NPCs across the map that you will never even see!

sjw,
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@Marshall1Banana @BigTLarrity I'm still not really sure that was the cause. It's not a lot of triangles to begin with. It'd be easy to determine if the teeth are visible to the camera and not worry about rendering them. Would low poly and culling increase performance? Probably. Is that what's causing the issue? If it is that means the teeth are getting rendered a lot more than they need to and that's inefficiencies in the pipeline that need to be addressed.

LivingSpaceStudios,
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@sjw @BigTLarrity @Marshall1Banana Raw poly count hasn't mattered for decades at this point. The real problem is fill rate versus memory buffer access.

You can draw millions of triangles end-to-end but if stack even a few hundred on top of each other you can slow the rendering down to a crawl. Especially with how beefy some of the fragment shaders can be nowadays.

sjw,
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@LivingSpaceStudios @BigTLarrity @Marshall1Banana it'd be nice if we had 512-bit memory buses again. Especially with modern speed and memory compression.

r000t,
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@Marshall1Banana
When writing code of any kind, use this thought experiment.

When you go to hell, you must do, by hand, all of the computational work a computer has ever done on your behalf. And I'm not talking "Do 3+7 on paper", I'm talking you do every MOV, EAX, ADD, etc.

You'll either write efficient code or you'll decide this computer shit ain't worth it.
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coolboymew,
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@BigTLarrity mid-gen upgrades weren't that bad of an idea a few gens ago, or at least, they didn't seem like they were a bad idea

Now? The big issue is that we have a few gens of these "upgrades" basically amounting to almost nothing. The New 3DS barely got any exclusive games, for example

The devs knows, the customers knows all of this already

And from the opinion of people with a PS5, most feels like the performance issues in games currently aren't a big problem enough, it's mostly not a problem for non-AAA and they feel like the system haven't had its power used to the maximum yet... On top of AAA struggling badly lately, oof. Yeah, overall, everyone thinks it's pointless. The Switch? Would have needed it a few years ago. The current consoles? Pfft

On top of that Sony has fucking no exclusives. So if they even support the damn thing themselves, like pretty much only Nintendo supported the New 3DS, that will divide the already nonexistent platform exclusives, so the absolutely best you'll get is it being "cross normal PS5 and Pro" with better performance at best probably, bah

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  • PurpCat,
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    @s8n @BigTLarrity @coolboymew I'm sure a base PS4 can do most of what you want too IMO

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  • coolboymew,
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    @s8n @PurpCat @BigTLarrity There's also the big problem of "If people just wanted raw performance, they'd just get a PC" which is generally more affordable than ever, gaming laptops are actually a viable thing now too, Steam Deck, etc

    brokenshakles,
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    @coolboymew @PurpCat @BigTLarrity @s8n Yea, the new handheld PC market is cannibalizing their value proposition. With Steam Deck/Aya Neo 2/ASUS ROG Ally/Lenovo Legion Go providing a near-console like ease-of-use experience and a much wider selection of games with a much longer potential shelf life, why would anyone want something that can't do the portable thing in addition to the HTPC thing?

    coolboymew,
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    @brokenshakles @PurpCat @BigTLarrity @s8n Exactly. On top of their sheer lack of exclusives on console now, why the fuck would you get a console? Especially, why the fuck would you get a premium "Pro" version of a console? Even worse, why would you double dip instead of buying anything else more viable?

    PurpCat,
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    PurpCat,
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    @coolboymew @BigTLarrity at least the one x ran games faster

    kingboom777,
    @kingboom777@nicecrew.digital avatar

    shit i forgot this thing was even a thing. does it even have any games?

    BigTLarrity,
    @BigTLarrity@nicecrew.digital avatar

    Its the only system in history to have -1 games. Square Enix planned to release a game for it and then took it back

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